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G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« on: March 13, 2008, 10:45:07 AM »
I just finished installing my A1200 in a tower with G-REX PCI board. I have a Voodoo 3 card installed in the busboard, should it show on Expansion Board Diagnostig screen? I have tried PCISCAN also but it says Cybpci.library couldn't be opened. Shouldn't that library be loaded directly from BlizzPPC's rom? My BlizzPPC firmware is 26042002 which should have OpenPCI 2.2 support and is the latest firmware update available for BPPC.
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2008, 12:21:39 PM »
vittu perkle saatana vitun vittu... Why can't anything just work from the start and where are the tutorials into installing a working OS39 with PPC etc. I'm so {bleep}ing tired of fidling with this BS software, not knowing where the problem lies.
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2008, 03:31:57 PM »
Uhh I'll have to check out what BPPC board I have.

So how should I install my software?

Fresh AOS39
BB 1 and 2
BPPCfix or Blizkick
PPClibemu
WarpOS + Update

Am I missing something or doing things in wrong order? I would atleast like to know if the PPC on my board is healthy and working.   :getmad:  :getmad:  :getmad:  :getmad:  :getmad:  :getmad:  :getmad:  :getmad:  :getmad: :madashell:
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2008, 04:29:09 PM »
http://aminet.net/util/moni/sspeed26.readme

Says "- PowerPC-Test added (WarpOS V12+ only)"  :-?  :-?  :-?
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2008, 07:57:39 PM »
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tekopaa wrote:
 vittu perkle saatana vitun vittu....tuttujuttu


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  I know its hard i managed to get my old Mediator PCI work almost 100% only SB128 wasnt working :) good luck  ... :lol:


You know what is sad :( I spend like 10h to restore the infinitiv case I got and had to paint it black to look good. Then I spend another 2 hours on the {bleep}ing grex which was supposed to fit right into the infinitiv tower but gues what it didn't fit in my infinitiv tower (wrong version)... :( Well I went ahead and changed the pins to correct height so that the board would attach to the GREX mothercard that is connected to BPPC and that the PCI slots would be on correct height to allow easy installation of PCI boards. Then I fire up the system all seems to be fine everything works like a charm untill I don't notice any other expansions then BPPC + all the else I have explained earlier. Everytime I try to do something with PPC everything starts to go wrong. I don't have a reliable test to determine wheter the faulth is in the software or hard ware and that pisses me off. I even got a PEG II only to find out that it can't use flash cards as system disk and I had to create a dealy script for it to recognize my HDD. Tutorials are very hard to find if any excist etc. Maybe I'll give a one last try and if I can't get a {bleep}ing PPC program to work then I'll sell all my Amiga stuff and be much happier.  :pissed:

Maybe I'll keep my Peg II since nobody seems to be wanting it and see if Morph team has worked some wonders when MOS2 is released. Untill then I gues my next venture will be Ubuntu linux...
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2008, 07:45:25 AM »
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if your BPPC is not a DCE one, then u have slim chances of a working g-rex... as it is said before u need rev2 BPPC. I have a dce bppc in the past, and g-rex was rock solid


This bit of info really bothers me as there is no mention about this at grex.amigaworld.de nor is it mentioned at Amigakit.com who still sell these boards.

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0 - Go to the Grex unofficial site and use the LASTEST Firmware without pluggin any card on the PCi bus !! Put 64mb at least.


Been there done that.

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1 - how do you power it ? AT or ATX PSU or by the floppy connector on the motherboard (don't do that !!!), or by the old amiga power connector (don't do that too !!!). Try to check the psu connectors when the machine is 'loaded'.


I'm powering the board trough the ATX connector and also have hooked up additional powersupply to the floppy connector.

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2 - Is the link between the BPPC/module/GREX are all 3 perfect ?


Should be I even used contact cleaner before I connected them.

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3 - Is the link between the BPPC/module done by metalic screews ? (ground + securities for the connector)


Yes.

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4 - Does your PCi cards are deeply plugged in theirs slots ?? I had a joke with cards in time even on PC


My only PCI card (Voodoo 3) is quite firmly fitted to the first PCI slot on the busboard. Only about 1mm showing of the card's contacts should be deep enough.

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5 - What kind of Grex1200 do you have ? do you have the label "Neue Edition" with red wires like mine ?


Yes I made sure that I get the "Neue Edition", but the wires are green ;)

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6 - which cards did you try and which order do you put them ?


I have only tried my Voodoo 3

I'll get back to this thread on eastern. I will pack away my Amiga now for awhile to get it out my mind.
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2008, 05:54:28 PM »
And no, that is not my promlem you know that you can hardwire the socket to accept the ATX wakeup signal.

See:
http://grex.amigaworld.de/index.php?lang=en&page=46
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2008, 08:28:16 AM »
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Hm, you understand german?  :-)


Not really :-) I traced the ATX wakeup signal to those pins on the second picture. It was only after that when I discovered that picture :-P

One can always use Google to translate  :-D
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2008, 03:06:09 PM »
Ok I'm back with G-Rex problems :(

Here is so far what I have done:

Assembled the system :) (A1200 KS3.1, BPPC 160Mhz 060 50Mhz, G-Rex PCI, Voodoo 3 16MB PCI).  

Installed OS3.9
Installed WarpOS (from OS3.9 CD)
Installed BB1
Installed BB2 with ROM updates
Installed BPPCFix to disable ppc.library
Installed CGFX for G-REX

Problems:
ShowGFXconfig displays that 0 gfx cards installed
Boardtype show that I have revision 0 BPPC and says that it might be problematic with Bvision.
pciscan say that Cybpci.library is missing (is this because I have a revision 0 BPPC)?
Should the Cybpci.library come from BPPC or GREX?

Is my board revision the ultimate problem if so is there anyway I could update it?
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2008, 04:15:27 PM »
I power it now only from the ATX connector. Uh forgot to measure voltages. Well the system is otherwise stable...

Yes I tried to boot Mos powerup from DH1: which I set bootable with priority 0

Copied all the files from the cd to it, then edited startup-sequence for the correct bootdevice

Cold booted the system disabled all the other drives. Then booted = black screen after awhile it reboots and nothing shows up. I even made it my primary bootdevice, but it just keeps rebooting it self.

I can't rememer wheter I have the latest official firmware on BPPC or not. I'll have to check once I get back to work as all my Amiga stuff is in there.
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2009, 08:41:36 AM »
Ok measured 5VDC line and it is at a healthy 5.07V

typing "version cybpci.library" at shell tells me that I have version 2.2 of cybpci.library

still PCIscan tells me that cybpci.library couldn't be opened

I was able to run PPC-Memtest, so I think that verifies that my PPC is working.

Could someone give me a screen capture from early startup -> expansion diagnostigs with GREX PCI installed. Should the PCI lanes be there or not?


On MorphOS what do you mean by IDE trick?
Oh yeah and how can I tell if I have MAC version of the Voodoo 3?
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2009, 10:57:14 AM »
Hmm I wonder if DCE would update my card without charge. Tough I doubt they will do it nowadays out of charity :(

Anyone have later revision BPPC with 040 and in use with mediator PCI and would like to trade it for a 060 PPC?

OK I got to the early startup menu of BPPC and nothing shows under PCI :(
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2009, 04:31:32 PM »
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Do not use the latest firmware and drivers with a GRex connected to a rev 0 BlizzardPPC. With regard to the BlizzardPPC rev0 and Grex that is bad advice. This is a case of the newest software being the problem.

The reason you need a rev 2 BlizzardPPC is for the OpenPCI stuff in the latest firmware and the latest drivers. Don't use that because it will never work.

You need the drivers and firmware just before the OpenPCI stuff. I have a GRex here connected to a rev 0 BlizzardPPC and it's working great but not with the OpenPCI firmware and drivers.


Could you check for your firmware version? So that I can flash the same to try it out?

I just installed firmware that is dated 19.09.2001 on this page:
http://grex.amigaworld.de/index.php?lang=en&page=39

Still nothing shows at PCI menu and PCIscan still says that cybpci.library couldn't be opened. I'm starting to think the I have either a broken GREX PCI or PCI lane on my BPPC is totally busted :(

Odd thing is that after the firmware "downgrade" cybpci.library seems to be v1.2 and not v1.3 that is stated on the GREX support site.
 

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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2009, 09:03:47 AM »
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Re: G-REX PCI 1200 problems
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2009, 10:11:03 AM »
Oh well I don't see anything in BPPC early-startup menu under PCI, So I'm thinking that maybe my GREX is broken. Well hopefully I can get a BVision today to test out the PCI port on my BPPC to determine wheter my BPPC or GREX is broken.