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Offline Wilse

Re: Trackers that do 14-bit sound on 68000?
« on: January 30, 2013, 12:28:50 PM »
Quote from: ral-clan;724654
I had spent many years expanding my big box Amiga so that little of the audio work I was doing on it actually used the original motherboard hardware, instead relying on third party CPU cards and AHI audio cards, etc. So I don't see the switch to PC DAWs as a move away from Amigas, as I had essentially already moved away from the hardware that made the Amiga unique when still using my Amiga.



I never thought of it like that before. :-)

The last "semi-serious" audio work (i.e. recording some demo songs) I did on an Amiga was with HD-Rec on the A1 about eight years ago, before switching to Logic on the Mac, which is still my main DAW. I was using an SBLive sound card, on a G4 PPC, with a MIDI i/f that Alfred Faust made for me, so I suppose I had moved away from "Amiga" hardware too.

Having said that, I recently put a new CMOS in my several-years-dead-A1 to get it going again and last night downloaded the latest version of HD-Rec.

Haven't done anything with it yet, right enough.

Offline Wilse

Re: Trackers that do 14-bit sound on 68000?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2013, 12:33:09 PM »
Quote from: polyp2000;724658



But I never once thought the Amiga had a "unique or distinctive sound" (other than the limitations of 8bit samples) - I always thought the sound hardware could have been better - i wanted a successor to SID.


I'd tend to go along with this. You could maybe argue that the method of working was unique to the Amiga but not really the sound.

Offline Wilse

Re: Trackers that do 14-bit sound on 68000?
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2013, 01:13:08 PM »
Quote from: ral-clan;724666
Well, some argue that the Paula's non-linear output gives it a distinctive sound,


Yeah, those guys have better ears than me.

Offline Wilse

Re: Trackers that do 14-bit sound on 68000?
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2013, 07:55:57 PM »
Quote from: bloodline;724669
Perhaps not better ears, but probably actively looking for a distinctive quality that can be found in Paula's audio reproduction...

Her hardware does colour the audio quite a bit, and I like to use her for 8bit sample play back (though I prefer record the audio samples on my Mac with it's 24bit FireWire audio box, to ensure a clean recording).

All the old Samplers were quite distinctive, which is why I still use my Roland W-30 for all 12bit work :)

Well, as far as Paula goes, there was also the added link in the chain of a variety of parallel port, 8-bit samplers. These add their own colour to the mixture.
Even still, to my ears my 8 bit sample collection, some of which I sampled myself, some of which I didn't and some of which probably wasn't even recorded via Paula, sounded very similar when played back via different hardware to what it did on my Amiga.

I know there will be certain, specific sounds which are audibly different when played back via Paula than other 8-bit chips but my ears have never noticed this to any degree where I could say with certainty that I preferred the Paula version. This is despite around a decade of pretty-much-daily sampling and recording on the A1200.

I should also add that I can't tell the difference between a 320kbps mp3 and a 16 bit .wav either. However, there were a couple of youngsters on my sound engineering course who claimed they could. So, in my case, I think it *is* my ears (or at least how I perceive what they hear).  

In such circumstances the pursuit of said, unique sounds would take me into a spiral of diminishing returns that I'm far too old to devote the time too.
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Offline Wilse

Re: Trackers that do 14-bit sound on 68000?
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2013, 02:19:48 PM »
I thought he meant take a 3 second clip from a 320 kbps mp3 and compare it to the same 3 seconds clipped from a 16 bit wav?