Workbench Install...What did I miss?

[Mallette]

So I copied the System files from WinUAE to the Amiga drive and installed it.  No good, no boot.

All I have is a Workbench 2.0 floppy which, of course, cannot see an IDE drive.

What did I miss?  Seems like it used to be about that simple.

Obviously not...

Dave

[Mallette]

Yep,I did it all.

Dave

[Mallette]

Ok, so I am assuming there is more.  I tried the "Install" from WinUAE, but got to the end of the first disk and could not figure out how to insert the next image.  There appeared to be no way to navigate.  Obviously missed something...

But, even if I could, I noted that it simply requested "Workbench Disk" without specifying which one.

So, that's it for tonight.  If anyone can give me a bit of guidance here I'd appreciate it.

Dave

[Mallette]

I don't have it in front of me so I can't take a look, but the disk swapping problem (other than no labels on the images) was that I could not seem to pull a directory on the WinUAE disk swap dialogue.

Actually, I am now wondering if it might boot anyway since I had copied all the rest of Workbench over before before realized one needed Kickstart, and that disk was installed.

Thoughts?  

Dave

[Mallette]

Yak:
I am not sure about whether I made the drive bootable or not.  Since it is being tried in a real Amiga I guess I did not really think about it and am not even sure what part of the HDToolbox dialogue that takes place in.

Dave

[Mallette]

I am using 3.X (I think .5) Workbench.  2.0 doesn't do IDE.

Dave

[Mallette]

That's news to me.  My 2.0 floppy does not show my HDD's, which are IDE.  

Dave

[Mallette]

Looked at the links, read what I could.  Nothing telling me anything useful so far...

Came home and tried loading all the WinUAE images to the 4 available floppies for install.  

Of course, it insisted on booting uselessly to a blank workbench screen.

So, I thought maybe I could just get the basics from three, so I loaded install, main, and local...even though I had no way of knowing that those corresponded to since that is not what install asks for.

Install worked, but the second disk asked for was "Extras"  None of them labled extras, so another "abort."  I'd hoped maybe at least kickstart would be there, but I assume abort dumps everything so far so it did not boot.

Then I thought I'd just install 2.04 on the Amiga from my old set.

No install disk.

Sheesh, can't seem to get a break.

There MUST be a what to change disks from within WinUAE.  All I can find is the "WinUAE Control" which offers no way to navigate to a disk.

Of course, even then you've got to figure out which of the image names in the WinUAE OS3 directory corresponds...but that is another problem.

Enough for tonight...maybe I'll get some input or inspiration before tomorrow.

Dave

[Mallette]

Slogging through this picking up tidbits as I go.  The F12 from within WinUAE after boot appears to be a MAJOR progress.  All those issues I had with trying to keep mounted drives from booting are easily dealt with by mounting after the fact.  I also figured out the floppy swapping using the same procedure after boot.  However, I think the drive I was using (an old IDE for practice) has gone south as it refuses to mount after the fact, causes a guru (trying to boot) if inserted before the fact, and cannot be allocated or anything by Windoze even though it shows.  

Still at a loss for what the WinUAE Control thingy is for.  You can push eject, and it ejects...but you can't reinsert anything as all you get is a blank line when you hit insert.  At least the F12 method works...

I'll try another drive later today and see if I can get something going.

Dave

[Mallette]

Quick trip to frustration tonight, quiting early.  It wasn't the drive.  My other IDE drive wouldn't show either suddenly, whether mounted before or after the fact, or WinUAE insists on booting to nowhere from them.  Mounting floppies no better, they would not show unless I started DOpus, then still wouldn't open from icons.  Close DOpus, they disappear.  I certainly don't recall this on a real Amiga.  

I won't quit, but this is really frustrating.  Neither of my Amiga formatted drives would show tonight under the same conditions under which they were fine yesterday.  

Dang strange.  

Dave

[Mallette]

So, in short, here is where I am:

1. If I mount the target amiga formatted IDE drive before startup, it insists on booting.  Since none of the other drives show up in WinUAE config, I cannot change the boot priority.  BTW, this is "new."  Drives, Windows and Amiga HDF's, used to show on the pre-start WinUAE configurator.  Now they do not on two differenct PC's.  Spooky...

2. If I use F12 to add a hard drive within the emulator, it shows in the configurator but does not show up afer "OK."

3. rkauer, thanks for confirming all is not well with some of these functions.  Makes me feel slightly less insane.  (Floppy changes done from within WinUAE show only in DOpus and disappear if you close DOpus).  

4. Starting WinUAE from the dos command line gives me a kickstart screen if the Amiga drive is attached even though not configured.  And, as mentioned in "2." above will not show after booting.

Blocked on every front.  I shall not quit!  There HAS to be a way out.

PS - OK, WinUAE REALLY is weird.  Situation still as above, but when I clicked the "Make HD Image" button on the non-showing Amiga formatted drive...it started makeing one!  Don't know what I will do with it if it completes (still in progress), but it is at least a new blind alley to explore.

PPS - Completed, mounted, and doesn't show...  What a SHOCK!


Regards,
Dave