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Offline Gulliver

Quote from: Niding;804847
http://apollo-core.com/knowledge.php?b=6¬e=499&z=SZnEUD

As I understand that is a P96 driver for Apollo developed by Jason McMullan. Why does it also exist another P96 driver by Thomas Richter dated 27/12/2015 ?

What happened? I am a bit confused. Two P96 drivers? Why?
Could anyone shed some light on this matter?
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #1 on: February 29, 2016, 05:55:50 AM »
Quote from: Niding;804849

Seems like its AROS based, which is founded on the whole AROS and AOS3.x discussions, and potential limitations "enforced" upon Vampire from the operating system as it is without patches.



So if it is Aros based, then it is free from absurd licensing schemes.

And I certainly think, that if it is not a retro project, but  more of a project that will be further developed in the future, it is definately understandable why the Apollo Team chose Aros. Whilst AmigaOS 3.x is what I nowadays use, I understand it has little to no future, so choosing Aros was the right desition if you are not relying on nostalgia, but on future.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2016, 09:24:19 PM »
@Thomas Richter

So stop complaining and get your act together:

Build and sell a new AmigaOS for 68k and compete with current Aros 68k offerings.
I am sure I, like many other over here that complain, will still buy yours, and try Aros.
 
I am pretty confident you will get a few thousand sales if you hurry up and deliver a good product at the right price. The more you wait the stronger your competitor gets (Aros).

So in the end it is up to you to stop this wishful thinking and debate of further AmigaOS 68k development (it has been going through a few years already), and start delivering, or your market will migrate to other offerings (Aros).

Competition is always a good thing for the consumer (but not so good for the entrepreneurs).

Good luck!
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2016, 10:32:31 PM »
Quote from: Thomas Richter;805200
Are you suggesting or are you sarcastic? I *personally* believe it stops making sense at this time. There is a clear indication now, and a clear decision has been made that this is not wanted nor desired.

In the end, nobody trusts Hyperion at this point, given their past decisions. Do I trust them? Honestly - possibly not. The only thing I know is that it cannot work without them, so I personally considered it would be at least worth a try. Unfortunately, as it seems, it neither can work with them.

So here we are.

No, I was not being sarcastic.

Hyperion may suck, but at the end they want money, as much as you  or whoever else might possibly be involved. So this is a simple common ground that can be agreed upon all parties. better have some $$$ than nothing :)

There is still a market for AmigaOS 68k, dont let your hurt feelings get in the way.

We, as users dont need to trust on Hyperion, we need to trust on the developers, like you or whoemever they might be (Olsen?) and their resulting efforts. See it this way: Have we trusted Amiga Inc. in the past when they delivered 3.9? Not by any chance, but we trusted the developers, the resulting work, and bought their products (hey, we are even still buying 3.9 cdroms more than a decade after).

So, you felt you got screwed on Picasso96 and the Apollo Team. Get back to the drawing board, something failed, and it is not the first time, just remember Elbox and their Mediators drivers. Maybe you need to change tactics.

There is still money to be made and customers to satisfy, but as good as you probably are as a software engineer, is that you are flawed in some business related things. Dont get your emotions to be the ones that define your business desitions.

Amiga is my hobby, like probably all of us here, and I just want a better experience with it. So if you have something that will enhance my hobby experience, I will still buy your product even if it was backed by Hyperion (which I really dislike).

Think it over
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #4 on: March 03, 2018, 08:42:14 PM »
@johnklos

OFFTOPIC:
                Do you still have those lovely 68k Amiga servers? I remember one of them was a racked based 68060 Amiga called "Lillith". It was a beatifull sight.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: [UserReview] Vampire V2-128 received and it's just pure p0rn.
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2018, 09:56:22 PM »
Quote from: johnklos;836884
http://lilith.ziaspace.com

I do! The 1U rackmount Amiga 1200 was recently recapped and is happily compiling away. Yay! It's not the machine hosting that page right now because I'm moving, but it will be on the public Internet again soon.

My Amiga 4000 server still needs a full recap. Trying to compile all 17,000 NetBSD pkgsrc packages with just one m68060 (and a 1U Quadra 605 with a 33 MHz m68040) is a bit impractical. I'm looking forward to getting a Vampire 500 v4 in to the mix.



That is really cool. I hope you put Lilith back online soon.

I understand the need for a faster system given the workload you put on those machines.
I hope that you can solve it. Looking forward for a detailed review if/when that happens.

Thanks for the update. :)