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Offline Gulliver

Re: To high of prices on new boards
« on: August 20, 2013, 05:23:15 PM »
Quote from: yssing;745464
Why did the prices come as a surprise?
They have been high since the first PPC boards (blizzard/cyberstorm).

Trolling maybe?


That comparison is not accurate:
The first PPC boards (blizzard/cyberstorm) were cutting edge PPC stuff back then. No one would dare say that current AmigaOne offerings are cutting edge. So in the end price is a showstopper: you now pay more for less.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: To high of prices on new boards
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2013, 05:26:22 PM »
Quote from: SACC-guy;745481
@smerf
You do understand that morph users has the same problem as classic users...
the hardware is old and while lower in cost to buy used, the repairs or replacement costs starts adding up. In my case I had to replace a power supply and graphics card on a used mac for morph.

The only NEW hardware is Acube's SAM and AEon X1000 even if the price offends.

M


You are wrong, Morphos users are in the best of situations: hardware is abundant, it is reasonably inexpensive, and there are more skilled repair shops for them than several times what the 68k and AmigaOne users have together.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: To high of prices on new boards
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2013, 05:54:50 PM »
Quote from: wawrzon;745491
in fact i know few addresses where you can dependably send in and repair your genuine amiga hardware. besides i dont see the general shortage of it, you will actually always be able to find whatever you need for close to reasonable prices. and please dont tell me now about the ppc accels, who needs them? on the contrary i have seen a number of people walking away because they couldnt get their os4 hardware repaired and they couldnt afford or justify a replacement. and i dont talk about those leaving silently through the back door.


I have to agree with you, I ´ve witnessed many OS4 users leaving for the reasons you mentioned.

On the other hand, giving a second thought, we, 68k users are not so bad either. There are plenty new hardware developments, and if we find price is steep for vintage systems, then we can always use a FPGA clone or use our enviroment in an emulator (and these options are not possible for both MOS and OS4).
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: To high of prices on new boards
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2013, 07:16:08 PM »
Quote from: Fats;745503
Do you have a realistic plan to develop cheap(er) boards? Where the devs are paid normal wages for their work and not have to do it out of love ?
Didn't you notice that also the number of hardware developers has decreased a lot together with the number of amiga shops. This is not because they make tons of cash.

Are you kidding? Just ask the few people that know how much Acube sells their PPC motherboards in the embedded market (and I am saying this is not in high volumes), and you will no doubt see that just changing firmware and adding OS4 adds many hundreds of euros alone.

So OS4 hardware could be cheaper, if ambition was just a bit lower.

Anyway, sooner or later OS4/AmigaOne/SAM will be out of the current Amigaish offerings if they dont change their selling/advertising policy. It is a niche within a niche that will eventualy dry up.