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Offline Gulliver

Re: Amiga 1200 video output problem. Please help!
« on: February 20, 2010, 12:04:06 AM »
First of all, check you are doing things right:

1-Check (do not assume) wether your Amiga is either PAL or NTSC
2-Make sure your Amiga TV standart matches BOTH your Tv and your A1200
3-Connect the A1200 to a TV using the RF output. and check if it works properly
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Amiga 1200 video output problem. Please help!
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2010, 12:43:02 AM »
To check wether your Amiga is PAL or NTSC, do the following:

1-Carefully open your A1200 and have the motherboard exposed
2-Search in the motherboard for an oscillator wich is labeled on the motherboard as X1. The Oscillator is a rectangular 1cmx2cm aprox. metal object, located in the center of your motherboard.
3- If on top of the Oscillator you read 28.63636, then your Amiga is NTSC. If it says 28.37516, then it is PAL

By the way, I have never heard about that channel 36 weird trick!
« Last Edit: February 20, 2010, 01:00:48 AM by Gulliver »
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Amiga 1200 video output problem. Please help!
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2010, 05:16:56 AM »
@Fanscale
You are wrong: the A600 and A1200 will output composite in color, not monochrome!
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Amiga 1200 video output problem. Please help!
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2010, 03:42:37 PM »
@spaceman88

booting an Amiga and changing in the early boot menu (by holding both mouse buttons) from PAL to NTSC or vice versa, will not help. Let me give you the long explanation:

Video signals for television in North America are different from
those used in Europe. North America uses the NTSC system, and most
European countries, as well as many others, use the PAL system. Since
the Amiga uses video-based screen modes, they are made for the different
modes according to the country.

The main differences between the two modes are resolution and frame
rate. NTSC displays have 200 lines vertically, or 400 in interlaced
mode, and displays 29.97 frames (59.94 fields) per second (most people
round it off to 30). PAL uses 256, or 512 interlaced, with a frame rate
of 25 frames per second (50 fields).

If you have the ECS chipset, you can switch your display between the two
modes using the Screenmode Prefs program, in the Prefs drawer. You can
also switch from the default screenmode at boot time with the Early
Startup Menu, which you access by holding down both mouse buttons when
booting.

Some programs, most notably games, which are not fully OS-compliant,
only support one of the modes. Many of the games on Aminet, for example,
are PAL only. If you have an NTSC machine, you will be able to use most,
but not all, of them as long as you have the ECS or AGA chipset and at
least 1 MB of CHIP RAM.

This method of switching to NTSC or PAL modes is only used to make
software work which is designed for the other standard. It's not
sufficient if you want to use an Amiga with hardware video equipment
from the other standard. For this purpose, you would have to rework your
Amiga's motherboard to a high degree, e.g. change the main crystal and
the modulator.

Hope it helps you to understand it! :)
« Last Edit: February 20, 2010, 03:45:43 PM by Gulliver »
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Amiga 1200 video output problem. Please help!
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2010, 06:28:29 PM »
Why dont you try your Amiga with another TV? Preferably a relatively modern one, these are nearly allways supporting PAL and NTSC alltogether, you just need to pull a switch or access the OSD menu of the TV and change its configuration.
You must be sure which TV standart is actually using your TV, so that we dont wrongly declare broken your Amiga built-in modulator or something else.

By the way, i am in Chile so, if you require any help you can PM me and i can talk you through this in spanish if it is easier for you.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Amiga 1200 video output problem. Please help!
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2010, 11:41:43 PM »
Goldstar es una marca un poco viejita, fue rebautizada a LG hace ya mucho tiempo. Lo mas probable es que el TV haya sido reconvertido a PAL y no se pueda cambiar de norma.
En todo caso, proba con el control remoto de la TV para ver si aparece algun menu en pantalla que permita hacer el cambio de PAL a NTSC.
Te ofrezco, si te interesa, un modulador A520 PAL gratis, solo te pediria que me pagues el costo de envio a Uruguay que es menor a diez dolares americanos, tendria que averiguar cuanto exactamente.

In English:
Goldstar is a little bit old brandname, it was renamed LG long ago. The most probable thing is that the TV has been reconverted to PAL and you cant change the standart.
Anyway, you should try with the remote control of the TV to see if some kind of on screen menu appears that allows you to change from PAL to NTSC.
I am offering you, if you are interested, an A520 PAL modulator for free, i will only ask you that you pay the shipping cost to Uruguay that is less than 10 USD, that i will eventually have find out the exact amount.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Amiga 1200 video output problem. Please help!
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2010, 07:46:52 AM »
No, la palanquita es para cambiar en la salida RF la configuracion para que funcione en canal 3 o 4.
Y si, hay moduladores PAL y otros NTSC.