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Offline Gulliver

Re: Indivision or other options?
« on: November 30, 2009, 07:17:08 PM »
The cheapest option i am using right now is the following:

Amiga RGB to SVHS adapter USD 30 on http://www.amigamaniac.com
SVHS to VGA adapter box    USD 27 on ebay (brand new) http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-Laptop-VIDEO-AND-S-VIDEO-to-VGA-Converter-BOX-T-11_W0QQitemZ260512987339QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3ca7c8b8cb

Total= 57 USD + shipping (the SVHS box was free shipping and Amigamaniac charges very little)

Advantages:
SVHS box has picture adjustments, it comes with its own PSU and cables. It is an external unit, so it works with all Amigas and is a 24 bit solution unlike others which are 16 bit only. Besides, i  still get as an add-on, better color composite output than any modulator or Amiga out there. And if you need SVHS for something, you already have an output.
« Last Edit: November 30, 2009, 07:20:06 PM by Gulliver »
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Indivision or other options?
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2009, 11:15:06 PM »
@koshman

It works in 31khz, with no problems. Quality is very good, i never used those screenmodes though, but i can tell you that you are able to use a wordprocessor without hurting your eyes. There is no color bleeding and the edges of the different shapes are pretty clear and tidy.

By the way, it works both on NTSC and PAL (Amigamaniac adapter works with both too)! It supports overscan and underscan display modes.

Resolutions of VGA signals at 31khz (according to docs):
640x480 @ 60/72/75/85hz
800x600 @ 60/75hz
1024x768 @ 60/75hz
1280x1024  @ 60hz

I am glad it help you!
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Indivision or other options?
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2009, 01:39:45 AM »
Well if you have good soldering skills, you can build your own RGB to SVHS adapter, schematics are out there, so it could be even cheaper! I bought Amigamaniac solution, because i dont have any soldering skills, and i really didnt want to build the adapter myself!
This is how i came to the decision of going thru that cheaper solution. I have an Amiga 1200, so i did the following comparison table:

My solution     VS       Indivision 1200

SVHS Quality       /          RGB Quality
external              /          internal
any Amiga           /         A1200 only
N/A                    /         reflashable, new screenmodes can be added
N/A                     /        flicker fixer built-in
composite out       /     N/A
SVHS out             /    N/A
N/A                    /  Monitor power saving support
N/A                    /  Optional scanline emulator
OSD menu            /     custom software
$57 USD               /   $167 USD

I really liked the Indivision, but it is awfully expensive, so i chose my solution, which was $110 USD cheaper. The only big disadvantage i saw in going my way, is that i had no flicker fixer, but then my LCD-TV has one built-in, as many new LCDs have.
Furthermore, there have been many problematic stories with the Indivision (setting it in place, and some display bugs), that it made doubt even more against it.

Just my 2 cents.
 

Offline Gulliver

Re: Indivision or other options?
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2009, 01:59:41 PM »
@koshman

I am sorry i don have my Amiga near me, I am currently on vacation in another country (Argentina). I never tested those modes, I only used the PAL monitor driver, which worked great!
Remember that the Amiga signal has to conform within the SVHS standart, if not it will fail during conversion. Do those modes work with a standart amiga modulator directly plugged to a TV (No converter box attached)?  
By the way some monitors are less tolerant than others regarding resolutions, so you should test a couple of them.

Please keep us posted.