CGX 4 and P96 SDK

[Gulliver]

@arnljot
I emailed a little ago (7-FEB-2010) Tobias Abt (P96) about the driver sdk. What follows is the exact transcription.


From:
"Tobias Abt"
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"Ignacio"
Hello Ignacio!

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Hi, I am an Amiga user that wishes to have access to your Picasso96 driver
> developer archives, which may seem difficult to find, just to have the
> possibility to develop more drivers for Amiga graphic cards.
>
> Thank you for your time, expecting a positive answer,
> Regards,
> Ignacio Gully

Sorry, development of Picasso96 has stopped years ago, its code base has been integrated into the sources for the next Amiga OS releases, and to be honest I do not even have the necessary files accessible any more because of inaccessible hardware. And besides I could not give you any support you would surely need because I probably have forgotten all about it.

I am really sorry, but you are about ten years too late... ;-(

--
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
  Tobias Abt

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[Gulliver]

I havent got the email address of Frank Mariak, but as he did CGX 5 for Morphos maybe @Piru, if kindly asked can contact him. It would be cool if we have at least the permission to freely distribute CGX 4 binaries and of course its sdk.

[Gulliver]

No problem, i will email him again, and ask him if we can put the sdk and relative documentation and sourcecode on public domain.


Update: Email sent. Lets cross fingers!

[Gulliver]

Guys, I am really sorry to bring you the bad news. Let me quote the email I sent, and the one received regarding the Picasso96 SDK:

"Tobias Abt"
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"Alexander Kneer"
Hi Ignacio!

Am 23.03.2010 21:31, schrieb Ignacio:
> Hi, I am sorry to bother you again with this ten year old stuff. The
> thing is that I have found the Picasso96 driver developer archives,
> along with some sourcecode, binaries and documentation. Will you
> please allow me to put these files on the Public Domain, so that they
> are freely available to everyone? I would also add if you think it is
> necessary, that you wont provide any suport whatsoever, and not be
> liable for any damage at all. So please, just say yes, and you will
> get rid of me

Sorry, but I have to decline your request. Unlike the application
package the driver package was never meant to be freely available.

The driver package contains our intellectual property and we always
intended it to be restricted so that any party willing to create
such a driver has to contact us and get approval.

That we do not further develop or support Picasso96 does not mean
that we forfait our rights regarding the intellectual property.

Therefore we can not allow you to redistribute it or change the
distribution conditions. In other words, no, the driver package
must not be put into the public domain.

> Thank you for your time, Regards, Ignacio

Thank you for understanding and respecting our point of view,
  Tobias

[Gulliver]

@Piru
Thank you for trying!

@All
I believe that Karlos has hit the nail. We need a new freely available open source rtg system, preferably one that can support both P96 and CGX functionality. The CGX layer AROS has can perhaps be a starting point.

[Gulliver]

Olaf Barthel just posted on http://utilitybase.com yesterday. He is one of the most die hard Amiga developers out there. I don't know him personally but I wish I did .

I have just sent a message to Olaf Barthel regarding Roadshow thru sourceforge.net.
Lets hope he agrees to make it public domain!

[Gulliver]

Just to let you know I emailed Heinz Wrobel and asked him about releasing Envoy 3 in the public domain and its sources if possible.

On another matter, I received an email from the author of a Picasso96 driver for a particular graphics card, and he told me he developed the driver by doing reverse engineering!

[Gulliver]

Bad news again, Heinz Wrobel said no:


From:
"Wrobel Heinz-xxx"
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"Ignacio"
Ignacio,

the answer has to be "No" for the time being.

Regards,

Heinz

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ignacio [mailto:xxx@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2010 05:34
> To: Wrobel Heinz
> Subject: Request to make Envoy Amiga network solution, Public domain
> software
>
> Hi, I am sorry to bother you with this ten year old stuff. The thing
is
> that I have bought Envoy 3 networking solution a couple of years ago.
It
> is great sofware for networking Amigas, and since you have been in the
> past a great supporter and developer for this now small Amiga
community,
> I dare to ask you if will you please allow me to put these files on
the
> Public Domain, so that they are freely available to everyone? I would
> also add if you think it is necessary, that you wont provide any
suport
> whatsoever, and not be liable for any damage at all.
> By the way, if at some point, you are willing to give out the sources
for
> no commercial purposes, that would be even better.
> So please, just say yes.
>
>
> Thank you for your time,
> Regards,
> Ignacio
>
>
>

[Gulliver]

So where or to whom do I have to give some $ to the Unified RTG opensource bounty?

[Gulliver]

Okay, I had to create a thread, to create a poll to gauge interest. Please explain a bit more on that thread what this is about, and I invite you to continue discussing this issue on that thread.

Thanks


PS: If we want things to get done, we actually need to do something about it