AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3

[Gulliver]

@kolla

I havent tryed yet. Will do it when i have a bit more time.

[Gulliver]

Excellent work Minuoius!
I will test it and then get back to you for further comments

[Gulliver]

@Minuous

First check done, found the following issues:

1)LoadModule is 40.11 should be latest from aminet (version 40.12)

2)
BoingBag3.readme QUOTE
These components are new:

PlayCDKludge                   1.2
Say                           43.0
translator.library            43.1
BoingBag3.readme END OF QUOTE

List is missing narrator.device 37.7

3) Missing update:
Ram-handler is 44.23, should be 44.24

Thats it for now

[Gulliver]

@Mathey

Thanks for finding that library and that narrator.device. I will soon fix BoingBag3 website accordingly!

I have seen your workbench.guide, which is certainly very good. In fact it has a lot of information on how to handle workbench using Arexx. But i must say that i disagree that it suits better for BB3, as it lacks all the general help information regarding for example: Workbench drawers, a general help FAQ with usual problems and their solutions, a brief description of what each command and tool does, etc. Anyway, i invite you to rip the information fom both, and attempt to merge them. That could be really usefull!

The Picasso96 stuff, in my humble point of view, should be added to a BoingBag3 Contribution software list, as such was the way Picasso96 was intended to be on AmigaOS3.9. As soon as i have a little more time i will attempt to generate that list and put it online including your Picasso96 findings.

[Gulliver]

@Matthey
I cant agree more!

I wish i had the time to edit them myself, but i am too busy at the moment to make that happen. So if someone wants to help on this, it could be nice!

[Gulliver]

AmigaOs BoingBag 3 website updated again:

-Due to popular demand, files are no longer on sharebee, they are hosted at the website
-Updated narrator.device (it is inside the Say archive)
-Added reqtools.library 39.3 (updates the one present in MooVid)
-Added two 3.9 bug entries
-Updated the credits section a bit

Of course you are encouraged to visit the AmigaOS BoingBag 3 website at http://lilliput.host-cafe.com

[Gulliver]

@utri007
Well those claims are not based on facts. AHI 6 has been made for various different platforms, including 68k and it works as intended. The only fact is that if you got a 68000 cpu you should use AHI 4.x because since AHI 5 onwards, you are required to have at least a 68020 cpu or better.

[Gulliver]

Excellent!

Will get back at you with some comments after i play with it a bit.

[Gulliver]

@Minuous

You are missing:

DEVS: scsi.deviceA4000T v43.45 (there is no 44.2 for this model)
DEVS: scsi.deviceA3000   v43.45 (same here)

They are both generated with the following patch http://aminet.net/driver/media/SCSI4345p.lha (you should use the IDE patch version for the A4000T)


There is an update to icon.library 46.4alpha11 -> 46.4.128 released today:

http://eab.abime.net/attachment.php?attachmentid=23628&d=1260984338

My 2 cents

[Gulliver]

@Minuous

Excellent work! We are so near...

Details left:

Ratte allowed us to include Highgfx and HD270 drivers which should be located at /sotrage/monitors/. They are both excellent monitor drivers for workbench. Download them at http://aminet.net/driver/moni/HighGFX40_6.lha

The installer should check wich mpega.library to install, so that it installs the one that suits better the cpu. Get mpega.library at http://aminet.net/util/libs/mpega_library.lha

That should be enough!

[Gulliver]

Discussions are allways healthy. This site does not host any files at all, but allways allowed freedom of speech. So wether we like or not the subject in discussion, it is allways a good exercise to be open minded and tolerant.
By the way, the use and installation of BoingBag3 has allways been at your own risk, and implies you have a legit copy of the AmigaOS 3.9 cdrom.
This BoingBag was never official, it is a community effort. That is the reason why it is called "Unofficial BoingBag 3". So if you are looking for Amiga inc. or Haage & Partner endorsement on the project you are looking in the wrong basket.
The entire project was based on my own prerrogatives.I mean that after being an AmigaOS 3.9 user, i thought what if all those upgrades, bugfixes and enhancements around the web for AmigaOS 3.9 could be assembled in a list in an informative way so that everyone that had AmigaOS 3.9 could take the time and effort if they wished, to upgrade their OS.
The project is really cool, from a 68k Amiga user point of view, and many people started to send their own suggestions, and their own software for it.
It grew in a way that i was offered webhosting to put all that information over there. At first i received so many emails and enquiries for particular items, and it took too much time to answer them all, that i had to directly link the files that were required for such BoingBag. A really good guy, with his clear intentions to  help our little Amiga community, tryed to create an installer including everything that would make BoingBag 3 something usefull for everyone out there that did not have the skills or time to gather and assemble the BoingBag 3 for themselves.
So in the end if you are still wondering if this is right or wrong, if it is legal or illegal, you should contract a lawyer and speak with a priest of your particular religion, and i am not one or the other. I mean you are allways on your own to find subjective answers to questions i really dont know, how they are or should be answered. Some things are legal in some countries, in others not. Some things are good for some people others see it as terribly wrong. You should decide.

[Gulliver]

I agree on what Piru said! I am going to try to take care of that.

Most likely it will say something like that you are entitled to use it, if only you got the legitimate AmigaOS 3.9 cdrom. You can distribute the BoingBag 3 using any media only if you keep all the files in it intact, and provided you do it free of any charge at all. You are not allowed to distribute this BoingBag with other software and charge money for the entire package or bundle. It cannot be given away free as an extra for the purchase of another product. No media and shipping charges are allowed for distribution.
And will add the usual disclaimer that we are not liable for damages of the use or missuse of the product.

All trademarks and software products are copyrights of their respective owners.

Plus a list of credits & contributors & acknowledgements

PS: I know it is not well written, but then that is the concept. If someone wants to help, you are welcome!

PS 2: So yes NOCD, so that they dont add it to an Aminet CD and sell it!

[Gulliver]

Thanks to everyone for their kind words. Anyway, keep in mind i am just one of many working on this project, and they all truly diserve the credits.

@TheGoose

You can get the beta version of the installation  package at:

http://amigan.1emu.net/releases/BoingBag3.lha

Please remember to report any bugs if you find them!

[Gulliver]

AmigaOS 3.9 Boing Bag #3 LEGAL

1.Usage
You are entitled to use BoingBag3, only if you got a legitimate AmigaOS 3.9 licence.

2.Distribution and Costs
You can distribute the BoingBag 3 using any media only if you keep all the files in it intact, and provided you do it free of any charge at all.
You are not allowed to distribute this BoingBag with other products and charge money for the entire package or bundle. It cannot be given away free as an extra for the purchase of another product. No media, handling, packing and/or shipping charges are allowed for the distribution of this software product.

3.Copyrights
All trademarks and software products are copyrights of their respective owners.

4.Limitations of Liability
In no event shall any contributors, developers or copyright holders be liable
for any damages whatsoever, including - but not restricted to - lost
revenue or profits or other direct, indirect, special, incidental or
consequential damages, even if they have been advised of the possibility
of such damages, except to the extent invariable law, if any, provides
otherwise.

5.No Warranty
The Software and this license document are provided AS IS with NO WARRANTY
OF ANY KIND, INCLUDING THE WARRANTY OF DESIGN, MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS
FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.

6.Copyrights Acknowledgements of individual BoingBag 3 components:
AmigaOS 3.9 is copyrighted by Amiga Inc.
AHI is copyrighted by Martin Blom
AWeb is copyrighted by AWeb APL Development Team
MooVid is copyrighted by László Török
AWNpipe is copyrighted by William H. M. Parker
XADMaster is copyrighted by Dirk Stoecker
PlayCDkludge is copyrighted by Ralph Babel
Appp.device is copyrighted by Thomas Bickel
Asyncio.library is copyrighted by Achim Stegemann
Workbench.guide is copyrighted by Matt Hey
Reqtools.library is copyrighted by Nico François and Magnus Holmgren
HighGFX is copyrighted by André Pfeiffer
Mpega.library is copyrighted by Stephane Tavenard
Say is copyrighted by Peter Kaltstein
Translator.library is copyrighted by M. Barlow and Francesco Devitt
Amplifier is copyrighted by Thorsten Hansen

PS: Constructive criticism is welcomed! By the way, there is a dedicated Amiga user trying to contact these Amiga developers in order to get their full blessing the way we intend to. If someone wants to help, you are welcome to do so, as many developers are extremely difficult to track down and reach.

[Gulliver]

@arnljot

Isn´t Amiga Inc. still the copyright holder of AmigaOS 3.9? There is already a helpfull user trying with no success to contact them reagarding this project, so that we may achieve official status. If anyone has or knows another way to contact Amiga Inc.  please drop me a line.

About naming, well it is called "Unofficial BoingBag 3", so the name says it all. So just for simplicity sake it is named in several places BoingBag 3, but then that is informally.
And this Unofficial adjective has been in its name since the beginning. If unsure check http://lilliput.host-cafe.com
However if you would like a name change, make a poll and if you get the majority of votes from all the choices presented here, or even some new ones. Then we can change it, it is really not an issue.

@AmiKit
Thanks for your recommendations and kind comments, but as said before, I am one of many which are involved in this project, and they all trully diserve the merit and the corresponding credit!

[Gulliver]

Give me 10 minutes and consider it done!