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Would you support this project? -please read-
« on: January 27, 2004, 01:14:02 AM »
A new custom based Amiga. I know it sounds crazy, but I think people love Amiga as it is with custom chips. Sure AmigaONE is a nice goal, but lots of people have waited loong time for the next "real" Amiga.

I am webmaster of amigaworld.org and would love to get a custom based Amiga back on the track.

How about, Amiga 5500, Amiga 6000, Amiga 6200 and further. Based on ColdFire cpu

New Amiga could be like this:

Amiga 6000 for example:
AAA+ custom chips
3D customable chip
ColdFireV4 220MHz
Kickstart 4.0
USB 2.0 as standard
PCI
AGP
SD-RAM
New 92 keys Amiga keyboard

Would you like to get into such thing like this? I would be so glad, and lots of other Amigans too.

Would someone of you help out financing such project and is there any interest at all?

I know lots of people wich have been waiting for the next "real Amiga". And not everyone agrees on AmigaOne or Pegasos II++ Some of you wants a new custom based Amiga. Its something else to have a new Amiga computer, than a PC motherboad with PPC on it.

Please answere with respect and give the will and write your thoughts and dont think cheap ways. AmigaONE, Pegasos II++ is all cheap. People have forgotten how nice custom based computers was. We all waited for over 5 years. But nothing!

Now its the time to think new. People starts to think how borring Windows is, how borring PC is. People is jumping over to Mac because of their difference.

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Re: Would you support this project? -please read-
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2004, 09:46:32 AM »
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I, for one, would love such a project. In fact, I've been designing my own custom chipset for several years, but it's a hobby project more for my


We need a new Amiga! Its time to think this now, and not in 2-3 years, when the Amiga feeling is lost.

Please contact me at:
mberg@broadpark.no

amigaworld.org would love to help out annyone out there going for such project.

Amiga lives on! I want the Amiga feeling back. Dont you? And.. someone here just dosent read my comment. I also included 3D custom chips, intergrated into a custom based Amiga computer.

With this new Amiga, the Amigascene could come back. AmigaOne is doing something, but not ennough I feel.

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« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2004, 11:36:36 AM »
The thing here is, that BoXeR could be something good, but it failed.

This project is aimed at getting a project complete.

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« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2004, 12:01:05 PM »

This new Amiga, would be THE Amiga for everyone who knows what Amiga is.

Yes! a 220MHz ColdFireV4 cpu, is way faster than 060 offcourse.

If not AmigaOS4 will run on it, AROS could for example, or something else.

When I buy a Amiga, I want to buy a real Amiga, and not a PPC motherboard with a PC modified case wich a reseller puts tougether for you. Thats not an Amiga and I know that there is lots of people wich agree with me. But its TABU to say something else today, than going the cheapest way.

Sorry for beeing so harsh, but Amiga 6000 would be a great computer. But its just to hard for people to think custom. But it can be done!

Look how beutifull the Amiga 4000T case from Commodore was and all the things wich was with it. Both SCSI and IDE controllers on motherboard++ Thats the cream of the cake in Amiga world. And A6000 would go even further.

I want AmigaOne, but I also want the real Amiga feeling back. So do others and if we can get tougether and show and support such project. This can be done. Its all about will,.. the will to challenge the world we live in now.

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« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2004, 12:15:30 PM »
Thats so wrong of you ....

Amiga 500, Amiga 600, Amiga 1200 was all custom based Amigas and they didnt cost too much at all.

So I doubt its soooo much more expensive this times to create something new.

And to the AAA+ point:
Well, what I am talking about. I a next generation 2D/3D custom graphic chipset. Based on how AGA was made, but offcourse fully 32bit+ 32mb chip RAM++

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« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2004, 12:23:24 PM »
You dont read... you just dont...

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« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2004, 01:36:02 PM »
This Amiga with go on like this

1. Getting financial support from Motorola

2. Getting Shiftec to contribute with A4000T alike case

3. Talking with those hardware people with NuOS and Oliver

4. Intergrate some sort of MediatorPCI technology into this, + adding SD-RAM and AGP

5. Getting OS support from Hyperion in the end

We need Amigas now,.. ! This could work, but then its up to people also. Dont be negative and its not that expensive.

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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2004, 01:49:59 PM »
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by Melaure on 2004/1/27 14:46:54


Yes! Thats what I am talking about.

Amiga should be something different. Not just a PC motherboard with PPC on it.  

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« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2004, 02:48:14 PM »
a nice dream :) and some of it could be reality if people wanted to.

Its a shorter way to a new Amiga, than landing a person on Mars.

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« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2004, 05:29:08 PM »
Well, thats an option. To go for PPC, rather than ColdFire..

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« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2004, 07:21:41 PM »
The main reason for this project, is to get the Amiga feeling back. Maybe even Eyetech is interested in the end.

I see a splitted community as I've got lots of mails supporting me, and here and also people wich dosent believe in such project and talks about dreaming. Yes, it is a dream, and it is a big dream for most of Amigans, to get the thing we all had before back.

PS2 is a good example on how Amiga could envolve yes.

Come up with ideas and I write them down,.. I also understand those wich thinks this idea is totally waste of time.

There is Amigans out there with knowledge of this things. Oliver, ApexSoftware, ELBOX, ++

A 3D-AGA chip like in PS2 in the new Amiga would boost it. It would give programers time and resources they never get anywhere else. I mean,.. all this new AGP gfx cards allways comes in new shapes. They give programers new standards and this results in more bugs in programs.

I dont say that a GeForce 4 TI 4200 card is bad or something, is just that programers should have the hardware to program for, and be good/better.

I'll give this going to Monday 09.00cet. Then starts working on this project for real. Getting companies interested. It wont be a easy task/job, but I love my Amiga 4000 and I would love to see a new Amiga. I will offcourse support AmigaOne, but its not the "real thing". It misses something... and Amiga Inc' dosent have any Amiga spirit left.

There is no advertising, the OS release is just never going to happend, and if it happends, only Amiga people will know of it.

Its better to try, than just do nothing at all!

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« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2004, 10:02:19 AM »
The first goal for this project, is set. The AGA replacement is choosen. Now its up to the company to wanting creating such set-up. Yes, thats right. Sony. Getting in contact with them will be hard, but with some help, this can be done. Remember, this is a project. And it can fail, but for me. I want it to work out.

The new Amiga, will be based oppon Emotion Engine. It wont be a easy task. This is just the hardware part and partners needs to be talked too and more. Including this, AmigaOS would be rewritten a bit to handle Emotion Engine.

More updates for this project will come later.

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« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2004, 12:13:29 PM »
I want to go further than just daydreaming. I want a new Amiga now! So, I will go for the project from Monday on. Promoting it! Getting people involved and more.

I have to learn more about Emotion Engine, how it works and more. Its the decission now, but in the end it could be something else.

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« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2004, 01:48:17 PM »
The finished idea will be published on
www.amigaworld.org on Monday

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« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2004, 07:14:47 PM »
This Amiga wont be splitting Amiga community at all. It will just follow the path of Commodore. Amiga was a computer, and it still should be.

As for now:
Amiga 5200 will be the prototype. To this stage. It will take about 4-5 months to the end product. If it goes well and people will be interested in buying it. Lets bring it out.

Amiga 5600 is just a dream in the future. But it would contain some sort of "new" custom gfx chipset.

Amiga 6000 is planned as beeing the final product.

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Amiga 5200 specs:
- Virtua3D gfx custom chipset (as seen in Dreamcast)
- PPC G3 600MHz (We've left ColdFire atm)
- Kickstart v4.0
- AGP slot
- PCI slots
- Zorro slots
- 2x SD-RAM slots
- Amiga joystick and mouse ports
- USB 2.0
- USB Amiga keyboard

This Amiga will be aimed at home and entertain marked. It will also be a nice multimedia computer for shopping centers, infochannels for Shopping centers and more. You will be able to watch DivX on it, play Amiga games and be supported.

Remember that this is a project and it is a dream. I want it to go thru, with some help, it can be done.

I want the Amiga back, so others too. AmigaOne will be a nice alternative offcourse and we aim at AmigaOS4 or something else.

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