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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« on: February 07, 2013, 04:55:26 AM »
I couldn't resist posting this one from a pretty well established eBay Amiga dealer:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-Amiga-4000-A4000-Desktop-Computer-with-40gbHD-CDR-OS3-9-/271152248613?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item3f21eef725

For the price, I'm suprised at the lack of a few amenities like a CSPPC, Picasso IV, Deneb or a few others. Not even free shipping and the monitor is being sold seperately. This is the highest price I've every seen asked for a stock A4000 regardless of the condition.
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2013, 09:25:04 PM »
Yeah, this is really clever. They managed to get enough html code into the eBay listing to redirect you to another site that is made to look like ebay. And there is a tendency to not display the full web address in a lot of newer browers. Evil.
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2013, 09:42:36 PM »
If you stop the page loading before it redirects, you can report it.
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2013, 10:30:35 PM »
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I did that, and I called the Ebay too about it, the page is still up and it looks like  Ebay is not too concerned about it.
I wonder how many sellers are hacked at one time and they don't know about it?


Very slow response time. And this is real serious fraud that threatens the integrity of their whole system. I think that an item has to be reported a number of times before it is pulled. In the hour or so it has been up, there could have been many more eBay accounts compromised. At this point, the guys doing this could be liable for some serious jail time and the FBI could be called in to investigate. There have been numerous seller accounts hacked over the last year, who knows how many have fallen for the bait--the A4000T is just one of many listings that have been copied. Interstate and international fraud.
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2013, 06:35:25 PM »
Another eBay seller got hacked. The ultimate A4000T is up again for $2000 along with a lot of vintage guitars, barbie dolls and other stuff that sold for lots of $. The seller normally deals in swimwear at around $15 a pop.

I'm going to have to start looking at Barbie dolls at yard sales. I might finance another Amiga with one. LOL
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2013, 05:14:50 AM »
Still live along with a lot of other $2000 listings. It will take eBay a few hours to deal with this. The strategy looks like get what you can in the several hour response time. If nobody bites the $2000 bait, they still might phish some more accounts for the next round. You would think eBay had profiled this by now. A response time of 15 minutes or less would discourage this. 1 minute or less would make it a losing game.
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2013, 05:34:42 AM »
18 pages of fraudulent listings. The fraudster's database of high dollar eBay sales is growing. The Ultimate A4000T is just the one we notice. It's obvious they are using some sort of database script/app to upload all these listings once they hack an account. All eBay would have to do is to keep tabs of these item descriptions and set it up to automatically shut them down within seconds of being listed. Don't they have good coders?
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2013, 04:37:03 AM »
Well, this is a bit of a surprise. This eBay seller usually wants the top end of the market for his Amiga gear. This one seem quite reasonable considering you get just about everything you'll need to upgrade a stock A2000 along with the disk and manual for the accelerator.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/GVP-68030-22mhz-Accelerator-for-Amiga-2000-2000HD-2500-NewTek-Video-Toaster-/281095516572?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item417299319c

I used to have an A2000 with this accelerator. It was a nice board.
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2013, 07:02:05 PM »
I think mine was 40mhz and I had the ram fully populated. I got something like $180 for it. I meant reasonable for this seller, not reasonable in the absolute. Having the original manual and disk adds something to the value but not as much as 3 gvp simms.
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2013, 12:21:28 AM »
It is a pretty complete package that's well thought out for someone who just has a stock A2000. The CD rom and 4gb scsi drive and cables would cost a bit on eBay. There are lot of sellers that try to get outrageous prices for old drives. Mostly they don't or wait a long time for a buyer. 250mb SCSI zip drives are a good example. Because there is a lot of old Akai and other music gear that can use them, there are usually a lot listed for around $70-$100. The same drives keep getting relisted. I've bought 2 over the last few years and I paid around $30 shipped for each of them. Now that eBay has a sold listings tab, I see that most that have actually been sold have gone for $20-$40 and the overpriced ones do sell but not all that often. It can take a bit of patience to find a good SCSI drive for a reasonable price on eBay. I used to get them from old Macs from our recycling center but now they won't let us local people take the abandoned hardware people leave there and instead send them to an electronics recycler that pretty much does the same thing with pulled parts. They aren't on eBay but they try to sell stuff like an old AT power supplies for outrageous prices on their website. I did get a good supply of SCSI drives and 72 pin simms while it lasted.
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2013, 12:23:27 AM »
Quote from: DutchinUSA;735792
Guess 3000T, PPC got pulled ... wonder if someone was dealing behind the scenes. Seen that happen several times now :hammer:


I had the Cybervision PPC on my watch list. The seller probably got a fat offer for the combo through eBay messaging. It was nice, including the documentation.

The ultimate A4000T is just one of many things the fraudsters list when a seller account gets hacked, mostly vintage fender and gibson guitars. I saw something on TV about a place in Romania where the hackers targetting eBay operate. Could be the source of this.
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2013, 02:37:02 AM »
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Don't know but the English he used was very American mid-west.


The Ultimate A4000T listing was just copied from the original listing which was legitimate. The technique is to watch eBay for stuff that sells for a lot, copy the listing text and photos, and pop them into new listings in the hacked account. I think they are using some sort of database and scripting to automate the process so the listings pop up fast once they get into an account. It's over in hours. Since the first occurrence of the A4000T fraud, it has gotten a little more sophisticated with each repeat. At first it was just a gmail address to contact out of ebay. Now it is redirection to other sites that look like a real eBay or Paypal page. Classic phishing. At one point, there was a listing that said nasty things about Amiga.org members. And the database of listings is growing. It was several pages of guitars, barbie dolls, pro audio and industrial equipment along with the "Ultimate A4000T" the last time it happened. The hackers could be operating anywhere. They obviously have some real chops and know how to code.
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2013, 05:31:53 AM »
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From the HDD you can tell that it is attached to a A2090 MFM/SCSI controller, and the far right card is  a KitchenSync card without the cables/connectors. I'm guessing there is an accelerator card in there too.  Granted all that and the control and connector box for the KitchenSync come with it, it might fetch $600+.


The accelerator is a GVP 030 with external SCSI connector. I had one once, same brown bracket. This A2000 is way overpriced.

There was an A2000 Toaster that had a GVP 040 accelerator with a Spectrum 110 graphics card attached that went for something between 350 and 400 recently. Same deal, just the photos and the seller didn't know a thing about it. I had it on my watch list just for the 040 card with Spectrum 110. The GVP 040 A2000 card is fairly rare but does come up for sale a few times a year. I've only seen 2 Spectrum 110s in the last few years on eBay.
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Re: are we still sharing crazy ebay postings?
« Reply #13 on: July 10, 2013, 02:35:54 AM »
Quote from: DutchinUSA;740394
Finally some decent prices on 2 modules I needed for 4000T and I totally missed the auctions :cry:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Quickpak-Escom-Amiga-4000T-A-V-Module-Excellent-Working-Condition-A4000T-4000-/271236290209?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item3f26f156a1

&

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Amiga-4000T-Dual-Floppy-SCSI-Controller-W-Cables-/271236264820?pt=US_Vintage_Computing_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f26f0f374

Anyone feel pity and want to sell me theirs? :P


You also missed the Quickpak 060 accelerator listed as an A4000T daughterboard for $175 BIN. It lasted about 10 minutes. I bought one of the Commodore A4000 23 pin to 15 pin VGA adapters from him for $20 shipped. I thought about the Quickpak 060 board but I don't need it now and hesitated too long. I hope it went to a good home and not to a hoarder. Wow, I resisted the tempatation to get a spare 060 accelerator for my A4000T that probably would sit in a box for the next 20 years. I guess I'm not really a hoarder. All my Amigas get turned on and used, even if it isn't all that often.

And back to the main theme of this thread, here's another overpriced A4000:

 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Commodore-Amiga-4000-030-With-BLT-Z3-Retina-Board-and-Electrohome-RGB-Monitor-/111114641700?pt=US_Vintage_Computers_Mainframes&hash=item19def2e124
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