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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« on: February 14, 2015, 03:38:46 PM »
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but that's really crossing the ethical line and looking the other way. Am I overreacitng?


I think that all depends on whether they know something that we don't and just can't state it at this moment in time.  When you're spending a lot of cash on a computer then I don't blame you for wanting to know what support you're going to get for both the hardware and OS.  I really like my X1000, but I'm certainly watching events here with more than just casual interest.

I'm going to wait for official statements from the real parties involved here.  We can speculate all day (god knows we've all done that over the years over various subjects), but I'm going to wait for some hard facts posted in public by reliable parties.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2015, 03:49:24 PM »
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Who would that be?  I would think the Belgian government would be pretty "official"


Well, it would be someone like Hyperion themselves, or A-EON or Amigakit.  As opposed to those posting guesses based on their biased positions on personal wishes.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2015, 04:18:40 PM »
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@ cpaek72

trust me when I say you want Amigakit to take their time assembling and stress testing your new custom made X1000 to make sure it's 100% when it arrives at your house.  It's a big stress to package it up and send it back across the pond so let them make sure it's right :)

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That's so true.

Wait until you see the way it is packed!  I think a tank could have run over the box without denting the X1000 inside due to all of the padding.  :D
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2015, 07:03:36 PM »
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It was an impressive hardware design more than 10 years ago, but certainly not today and especially not with a $3,000 price tag.  Unlike the original Amiga, the X1000 has neither a hardware or price advantage.   Its only real selling point is that it is able to run Amiga OS4, which is only an advantage when selling to die-hard Amiga fans as even Linux can do more than it.  And why buy an X1000 to use Linux when you can by a more powerful PC for less than 1/3 the price of an X1000?


That's your opinion.  Many would disagree.  ;)

I think it is worth the price tag and so I bought one.

The reason I didn't buy a cheap PC to run Linux is because I don't want to run Linux, I want to run OS4 so that is the selling point that counts.

Your argument is like telling someone who paid $30,000 for a Harley Davidson that he should have bout at $15,000 Kia because the Car has 4 wheels and airbags.  You're missing the point that the guy wanted a motorbike.  :D
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2015, 07:24:36 PM »
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Sorry, but I have to agree with LionHeart.  There's nothing compelling enough about an outdated operating system such as OS4 that would make me pay $3K USD for hardware to run it on.  A few years back (2008) I was able to purchase one of the last PegII systems produced and I bought a copy of OS4 and MorphOS to go with it.  My total investment was less than $850 USD but even then all I had was a moderately expensive paperweight. The X1000 hardware performs on the level of PC system from 10 years ago, there's barely any 3D GPU support and no OS4 productivity software. Sad that nothing has really changed in the 7+ years that I made my PegII/OS4 purchase except for the price of the hardware and its availability.  I realize that Amigas are your hobby but you'll have a hard time convincing anyone of the merits of OS4 and the X1000, especially if they don't have as much disposable income as you.


You might argue that there's nothing YOU would pay for.  However I disagree because there is something I would pay for.  However, it is a purely personal thing.  You'll never convince me to buy an iPhone at any price as I have no interest in one.

This isn't about cost or we would all be driving Kia cars.  Meanwhile, there are options for everybody's price range, starting at UAE+OS4 and going up to X1000+OS4.

The X1000 (taking inflation into consideration) is still less than I paid in the 80s for my original A2000 setup.

On the plus side, things do seem to be moving along.  Open Office is a desperately needed piece of software that will make a huge difference to the platform.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #5 on: February 14, 2015, 07:37:21 PM »
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No, my argument is more like telling someone who bought a 10 year old Harley Davidson for $30,000 that they could get a brand new one for around $8,399.    

Take out the Amiga name from the system entirely and I doubt you would have spent $3000 on a system that is more than 3 times the cost of a new PC and that is running on 10 year old hardware.  That kind of business model gives die-hards fans something to drool on but doesn't increase your user base.  The name only works as long as there are people around who still remember it.


I agree that cheaper options would be nice.  I wouldn't have minded paying half of what I did.  However, it isn't my business model and I don't make the product.  So for now I pay what I have to in order to get the product I want and hope that by keeping it ticking over now it will live to become cheaper down the road.

I bought a C-One motherboard which was an expensive choice at the time, but I did it to keep development of FPGA projects going.  While the C-One now gathers dust, it did evolve into the Chameleon64 which was a cheaper and more powerful option.  So to that extent I view my investment in the C-One as worthwhile.  I hope the X1000 proves to be a similar case.
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #6 on: February 14, 2015, 07:39:26 PM »
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@Darrin,

Right on the money! I drove a rental KIA, I prefer my Subaru WRX 1000 times better.

Iv'e driven a windows machine, so what. I prefer Amiga!

Chris


I'm driving around West Texas in a rental Hyundai right now.  On the 18th my new 2015 Mustang gets delivered from the Ford factory.  I know which one I'm going to enjoy more (not that this Hyundai SUV isn't bad for a work vehicle).  ;)
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Re: Hyperion bankrupt?
« Reply #7 on: February 14, 2015, 07:49:29 PM »
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Nice choice! But I wouldn't give up my Nissan 350Z for anything!


That's a nice looking car.  Does it come in a soft-top?  I like my convertibles.  I want to feel the wind rushing through my hair while I still have hair! :D

Edit:  I see it does!  Very nice.  Nowhere to put the kids though.
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