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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2012, 08:08:24 PM »
@ The Daddy

As I keep saying, and as CommodoreJohn says, leave the drives out.  We can install our own if we need them.

If you put them in then you open up a can of worms with people complaining about type/style/colour/brand/etc plus it will jack the price up.

Some people won't want an optical drive at all.  It would be no use to me with an FPGA Arcade.  If I want one later it will probably connect to the daughterboard so I'll need to see what connections are needed.  Might even use an external.

Keep it simple.  The less options and less parts the better.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2012, 12:25:46 AM »
Quote from: Kesa;692140
Personally i don't like the white so much. What i would really like to see is a camoflauge painted wedge case. I've always wanted a milspec Amiga.


For an extra $20, The Daddy will supply you with cans of black, brown and green spray paint.  :D
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2012, 12:47:31 AM »
Quote from: tone007;692144
I did a whole car once.



Half-arsed job.  I can still see it.  :D
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2012, 03:33:25 AM »
Quote from: BigBenAussie;692154
Given "The Daddy's" previous public attacks and contempt towards our company it was clearly intended as provocation and a publicity stunt.


Provercation and publicity stunt?  I think you must be talking about C-USA considering your unethical actions.

Keep it up Ben, you're fooling nobody here.

What he did was "fair use" in the same way Goodyear show their tires fitted to Ford cars or Toyotas.  You really need to remember just how small and insignificant you are.  The clock is ticking.  Barry's furniture is only going to support you for so long and then you're out of here.

You would also do well to remember he is located in the EU.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2012, 03:46:16 AM »
Quote from: BigBenAussie;692154
This is about trademarks, not about inventions.

Remember the stolen pictures C-USA used?  Did those motherboards in the fake pictures have your trademark on them or someone else's?  How about when you ripped off Disney because you don't quite understand what "partner" means?  Any mention of Windows on your website?  Hope you paid M$ to use it.

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We are not a big bad corporation but the very definition of the little guy.

Only saying this because we busted you after all of the lies.

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It isn't about hunting anyone....it is about intent.

C-USA's intent to screw the Amiga name.

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He can't feign ignorance that he was not doing anything wrong.

Except he didn't do anything wrong.  Care to make me out a list of everything C-USA did wrong?  It would be a big list and as CTO you are responsible.

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It was not an innocent mistake.

C-USA's lies?  We know that, no it wasn't.

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Given "The Daddy's" previous public attacks and contempt towards our company it was clearly intended as provocation and a publicity stunt.

Pointing out your lies?  Want to quote the personal attacks made by C-USA on The Daddy both in public and in private?

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He is using trademarks in his publicity materials he knows very well he cannot use legally. End of story.

Fair use policy.  He's not selling anything using your logos, he's showing a fan design, just like fans use Star Trek Logos or Star Wars logos.  Complain if he sells it with your logos showing.

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We don't post here for the advertising, let me assure you.

Nah, just out of desperation and "under orders".

Tick, tock... tick, tock...  tick, tock...
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2012, 03:54:46 AM »
FAIR USE OF TRADEMARKS UNDER US LAW:

In the United States, trademark law includes a fair use defense, sometimes called "trademark fair use" to distinguish it from the better-known fair use doctrine in copyright. As with copyright law, the trademark fair use doctrine is premised in significant part on the First Amendment guarantees of free speech. Fair use is consistent with the more limited protection granted to trademarks, generally specific only to the particular product market and geographic area of the trademark owner.
 
Most trademarks are adapted from words or symbols already common to the culture, as Apple, Inc. is from apple, instead of being invented by the mark owner (such as Kodak). Courts have recognized that ownership in the mark cannot prevent others from using the word or symbol in these other senses, such as if the trademark is a descriptive word or common symbol such as a pine tree. This means that the less distinctive or original the trademark, the less able the trademark owner will be to control how it is used.
 
A nonowner may also use a trademark nominatively*—to refer to the actual trademarked product or its source. In addition to protecting product criticism and analysis, United States law actually encourages nominative usage by competitors in the form of comparative advertising

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Nominative use:

Nominative use, also "nominative fair use", is a legal doctrine that provides an affirmative defense to trademark infringement as enunciated by the United States Ninth Circuit, by which a person may use the trademark of another as a reference to describe the other product, or to compare it to their own. Nominative use may be considered to be either related to, or a type of "trademark fair use" (sometimes called "classic fair use" or "statutory fair use")



In C-USA's case, you can't even say that The Daddy is infringing on YOUR tradmark as he could be comparing his X500 with the real "Amiga" computer which you have absolutely bugger-all to do with.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2012, 04:08:16 AM »
Quote from: Duce;692162
Don't confuse him with facts, Darrin.  It'll make his brain itch, which will result in another 4 days of delusional ramblings..


True.  Plus I'm sure C-USA understands it perfectly.  They're just being bullies.

You know, the sad part is that right at the start I thought Ben was the only honest one on the staff, but it is now obvious that he's the same as the rest of them.  I wonder if this was the case all along, or whether it is desperation because he has sunk some of his own money into this flawed, mismanaged project.

Oh well...
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2012, 04:10:52 AM »
Quote from: Kesa;692165
@Bigben. How can you call that provocative? Up until today i always thought you were the voice of reason coming from CUSA. I've changed my mind.


I changed my mind when Barry used me to announce the birth of Leo's child and then tried to use that against me.  Christ, when a company resorts to using babies as a means to discredit their critics then they really are scraping the barrel.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2012, 05:03:02 AM »
Quote from: Kesa;692167
What? How could he use that against you? LOL


I know.  It didn't work very well and kind of backfired on them.  Still, they must be getting used to that.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2012, 05:41:51 AM »
Quote from: Argo;692174
Might have had less issue if you'd recreated a Walker based design. Noone wants to claim rights to that!


LOL.  That's cruel!

(true, but cruel)

Mind you, Hoover might go after him.  :D
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2012, 02:31:32 PM »
Well I see TMHG has been bought and paid for.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2012, 03:14:48 PM »
Quote from: Terminills;692258
I see Darrin has been bought and paid for. You can tell by his deletion of Jorkany's posts on awn.  ;)


If you want to discuss the moderation of the post on AWN then do it there.  I think you'll discover that the reason for the deletion is not what you think.  ;)
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2012, 03:15:23 PM »
Quote from: dammy;692259
Tell me that ain't so!


You're strangely quiet.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2012, 03:19:51 PM »
@ TMHG

You have a nerve.  Never mind, I don't expect rational posts from you.  You're just trolling for effect, as usual.
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2012, 03:28:50 PM »
Quote from: takemehomegrandma;692268
Oh, these 17 pages isn't me "trolling", it's the result of YOU CUSA-SPAMMING! *YOU* are the troll here, *YOU* are trying desperately to yet again create a problem where there is none, as most people would see, if they only would care enough to wade through 17 pages of your pointless bickering, which I'm sure not many does...

:mad:


God you're funny,  Time for your meds.  :D
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Re: Amiga Case Designer Faces Intimidation
« Reply #29 from previous page: May 08, 2012, 03:30:32 PM »
Quote from: dammy;692269
This whole thread is a troll effort and it was authored by you. Go figure.


I think you'll find it was started by Leo's actions and 99.9% of of C-USA's bad PR comes down to you and Barry.

Still, feel free to shoot the messenger.

At least I don't go onto C-USA's website to troll.
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