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Re: Upgrading a 4000
« on: October 19, 2011, 11:20:11 PM »
Get a Zorro 4xIDE adapter (FastATA4000 or Buddha).  Before I towered my A4000 I ran a CF card adapter to a slot cut in my blank 3.5" bay cover.  Do this and you'll be able to FAT format it and use it to transfer files between a PC (with a CF card reader) and your Amiga and use it for Amiga formatted cards.  I keep a 2GB card with a backup of my initial ClassicWB 3.x installation for use as an Emergency Boot Disk in case my Hard Drive all decide to fail.

That will enable you to have 2 x Hard Drives, DVD ROM and the CF Card Reader installed.
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Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2011, 06:46:00 AM »
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I'll definitely look into getting a Buddha IDE adapter. I want to use a CF card in a similar fashion, though I planned on installing it in a card slot. Did you just cut a hole in the front? I want to avoid that for aesthetic reasons. Unfortunately, the IDE and power cables are too short to mount in a card slot.

I think the RAM is stock...


Yes, I used a dremel to cut a slot for the card and the LED and mounted it behind the plate.  I also cut a hole for a front USB slot and run a cable from my Deneb card.

Here's a pic of the result:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b134/darrin01311/SDC10301.jpg

Note the red CF card and a USB memory stick protruding from the lower bay cover.
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Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2011, 06:50:42 AM »
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Actually, now that I think about it, I would prefer another method. Could I set up a CF card in WinUAE so my 4000 recognizes it as a bootable 3.9 drive?


Yes, but beware.  I did this with a CF Card once and my PC (Windows 7 64 bit) threw a fit when I rebooted it with the Amiga formatted CF card in place and it tried to boot from it.  It ended up doing a massive sulk and did some sort of automatic recovery to my hard drive taht resulted in 2 boot options which I had to edit to remove the non-functional one.

So, if you make an Amiga formatted CF card using WinUAE, for christ sake don't let your PC try and boot from it.
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Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2012, 01:17:20 AM »
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Update: Trying to get back into Amiga, got the HDDs out of my 4000. The master drive was about 145 MB, slave about 500 MB.

How exactly do I go about installing a new OS through WinUAE, again? My modern PC won't recognize the drives.


Boot into Windows.
MAKE SURE YOU RUN WINUAE AS AN ADMINISTRATOR (sorry for the caps, but this is essential or you can't mount the card as an Amiga drive - the option will be grayed out).
Put your CF card in your PC's removable reader
In your UAE prefs, mount the CF card as an Amiga drive and boot into your regular HDF file or Workbench folder.
Format/Partition the CF card using Toolbox as if it was a real hard drive* (make sure you make it bootable)
Copy your files onto the CF card
Put CF card in real Amiga and boot.

*I've had trouble in the past formatting some CF Cards in WinUAE where the Amiga will recognise them.  I discovered that using the updated Toolbox in Amiga Forever's "AMigaSYS" Workbench option works every time.
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Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2012, 02:01:20 AM »
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I want to use the original drives that I got with the machine. My computer does not even recognize the drive, I'm using a USB to IDE adapter as my PC uses SATA.


Principle will be the same as the CF Card.  Boot Windows.  Plug in USB adapter.  Run UAE as an Admin.  Mount drive as an Amiga drive, boot into Workbench.

I have a removable drive bay in my PC which I use for prepping large IDE drives via WinUAE.
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Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2012, 03:44:28 AM »
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Actually, a CF card is easier, and I already have stuff I need. So, what else do I need again? I have stuff to install OS 3.9., not sure what else I need.


Does your real Amiga have a CD/DVD ROM drive?

You will need Kickstart 3.1 on your Amiga to install/run OS3.9
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Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2012, 02:09:52 AM »
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No, it doesn't. I think I have Kickstart 3.1 on the 4000, though.


OK, now you lost me.  You don't have Kickstart 3.1, but you think you have Kickstart 3.1 on your A4000???  I thought you wanted OS3.9 on the A4000?
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Re: Upgrading a 4000
« Reply #7 on: July 22, 2012, 06:20:50 AM »
If you used Add A Directory to mount your CF card in UAE then it is not prepped for use on an Amiga.  You have to mount it as an Amiga drive and use either ADF files of your 3.1 OS to prep and install it or boot into a HDF file.

If you have real OS3.1 floppies then just prep the card on your actual A4000.  Do you have the OS3.1 "Install" disk?

Look at this link:
http://winuaehelp.back2roots.org/gui/hard-drives.htm

In the first picture you will see THREE options, ADD DIRECTORY OR ARCHIVE, ADD HARDFILE and ADD HARD DRIVE.

ADD HARD DRIVE is gray because in this case UAE has not been run as an administrator.  Run UAE as an admin and then use this option to mount your CF card as a hard drive.  Then use ADF files of OS3.1 (available on the internet with a little bit of searching) to prep and install it.  For ease of use, use a 4GB CF card and set it up with 2 x 2GB partitions called SYSTEM and WORK.

Make sure you check the READ/WRITE box.
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