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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« on: September 23, 2011, 12:26:55 AM »
Actually, I can imagine the sales pitch:

Customer:  So these $25,000 computers are state of the art garphics machines you say?
C=USA:  Yep, sure are.  You can't buy better!
Customer:  So how powerful are they?
C=USA:  Did you ever TRON 2 on DVD?
Customer:  Yes, that's where I heard of you.
C=USA:  Disney who made the film are our PARTNERS!
Customer:  You mean your computers here did the graphics for the movie?!
C=USA:  I can't answer that as I'm bound by a confidentiality agreement.
Customer:  Wow!  I'll take 3 of them!
C=USA:  KaChing!  Sucker!!!
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2011, 01:05:03 AM »
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Hang-on haters... Where's the usual "Why the hell are we even allowing mention of CUSA on Amiga.org?!?!!" ?


Because now they're entertaining.  We either post in this thread or watch Two and a Half Men for a laugh.
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2011, 03:19:38 AM »
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There's nothing funny about Two And A Half Men.


I missed the "funeral" episode.  The older series were fun.

I still think Married With Children was a classic.  Al Bundy was my role model.
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2011, 01:50:03 AM »
Here's the bit that concerns me:

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This forum is visited by not only potential customers, but others who may now, or in the future, have an interest in developing relationships with our company.


How many of you know about the various quasi-legal pyramid schemes that roll out in the USA every few years?  Favourites are the Emu Breeding scheme and the Alpaca Scheme.  See this link for details:  http://www.crimes-of-persuasion.com/Crimes/Telemarketing/Outbound/Major/Investments/wacky.htm

They involve setting up what looks like a reputable business and then convincing people to invest in it for a certain financial gain.  By the time the truth comes out (that there is no market) the people behind it move on to something new and take the cash with them.  These are not "classified ad" scams, they actually involve a lot of money and run real adverts on actual TV stations.

So, let's say I wanted to do a similar scam...

Phase 1:
Set yourself up a company and make it an LLC, for example "MY COMPUTERS LLC".

The reason you use an LLC is because in the USA it stands for "Limited Liability Company" and anybody that attempt to sue you can only sue the company for the assets of the company.  This protects the actual assets of the business owner (his home, his car, his personal bank account, etc) and his family.

Phase 2:
You need to identify a market, produce eye catching stock and advertise in reputable channels to quickly establish yourself as professional business with good connections.  Push your upcoming products on as many media sites as possible so that anyone doing a search for your products or company will find multiple hits.

Phase 3:
Sell some of your wares and build up additional advertising demonstrating that sales have been made and repeatedly state that demand is outstripping production.  Post fictitious sales figures, sales projections and perhaps even some fake shots of the production facilities.  All of these things will pop up for anyone doing some quick online research.

Phase 4:
Look for small investors.  This works a bit like McDonalds where other people set up the business and are then trapped into purchasing their stock from a single supplier.  In this case you have multiple people invest their own money to open up "mom & pop" shops to sell your underpowered and heavily over-priced equipment.  As you are selling the equipment to them and ordering it from a third party based on demand, you are at no financial risk and it is up to the investor to actually find customers.

Phase 5:
Look for big investors.  Now you point to your "extensive product line" (from 3rd parties) and your staggering global distribution outlets (the poor buggers trying to sell your overpriced goods) and don't forget to mention your own production facilities (the ones that actually belong to the people producing the goods for the 3rd party companies you buy your stuff from).  If you're going to claim to be fighting the big boys then you might want to make wild claims like having developed your own Operating System and make sure that nobody finds out that it is actually a rebadged free OS that you ahve nothing to do with.

Phase 6:
Pocket all of the investment money you can and make sure you pay top prices and salaries to yourself, family members and the shell companies you've set up as "middle men".  When the scheme finally collapses, the LLC has no cash assets, the offices turn out to be rented, the staff are all temps and there is nothing left for the investors to recover.

Alternatively, you could open up an LLC and make novelty computer case and hope you sell millions of them just like C=USA.....
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2011, 03:32:57 AM »
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It makes me laugh that he is quick to call others trolls yet he is just as responsible for the vitriol himself. I am enjoying watching all this as it's certainly more entertaining than X-Factor or Strictly Come Dancing combined. He has an unnatural knack for twisting what ever someone says on it's head, spinning it then spewing it back out to try and make them look like they are in the wrong. All this could easily be avoided by simply giving people more info. But we all know that this would probably be more made up than the stuff on the Jeremy Kyle show. His latest rantings only go to show that he really can't handle criticism. I hate to imagine what he would be like with a company like Apple, where every time they release something new there is an army of people waiting to rip it to shreds.


It does make you wonder why they just couldn't have come out initially and said "We're going to bring you a line of Commodore PCs running either Windows 7 or Linux and pre-configured with some free classic emulation software".

Nobody would have grumbled about an Intel Atom machine called a  "Commodore 256" running Linux or a i7 quad-core called a "Commodore 512" running Windows 7.
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2011, 03:44:51 AM »
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Well that was an enlightening read. I'm not going to jump right to that conclusion, since Barry is so transparently inept as a computer-manufacturer CEO that I can't see anybody investing in his venture (and I still maintain that the Disney "partnership" was bought,) but it is telling that they've spent so very much effort on trying to convince people that they're a Serious Company, Dammit...


The Disney thing was purely a case of buying advertising space.  Disney have as much to do with making Commodore computers as they do with making Canadian computers, light bulbs and popular fizzy drinks.  :D
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2011, 03:45:32 AM »
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It's the stuff on their facebook page too. The images of them jetting away and the rather odd message about keeping jobs in America. Yet he went to South America and Mexico for a factory.


... and his CTO is in Australia!  :D
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2011, 06:08:54 AM »
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You really are getting good at story telling. Maybe you should quit your day job and become a script writer for Doctor Who. That show has really gone down since David Tennant left :( and even you could do a better job than those useless wankers they call script writers. SAVE DOCTOR WHO! :)


I'm working on a script called "Dr Who and The Planet of the Lipstick Lesbians".  I'll let you know if the BBC go for it.  :D
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2011, 06:26:11 AM »
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Good stuff but not sure that's a good idea though as i already have my suspicions about his (Matt Smith's) sexuality (kinda like the white horse from LOTR)...


Yeah, tonight's episode was rather "RTD".  Mind you, Google for some pics of Matt Smith's real-life girlfriend "Daisy Lowe", she's stunning!
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2011, 01:40:21 AM »
I wonder if that $25,000 computer will come with a mouse?  It took them ages to decide whether the C64x should have one.
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2011, 03:08:19 AM »
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Oh, definitely. It'll have a $300 mouse to go with the $1000 case.


I'll wait for the $400 wireless mouse.  I hate them $300 PS-2 wired ones.  :p
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2011, 05:20:36 AM »
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Oh you may laugh but.......  http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Gear-Head-Mouse/6100788/product.html?cid=209800&fp=F&TRACK=CSEShopzilla&mr:referralID=48d23789-e8b6-11e0-be22-001b2166becc

That's a $400 mouse that is!


Bloody hell!

The funny thing is that if you look over to the right then they have a blue one for $14.99.

Red must be the in-colour at the moment.  :D
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #12 on: September 28, 2011, 05:44:12 PM »
C=USA have released another pic of a case.  Looks like for $25,000 it is only going to have 1 x 5.25" bay, 2 x full size 3.5" bays and 1 x half-height 3.5" bay!  Crazy!

http://www.bakesure.nl/foto/1354.jpg

There is a regulator for water-cooling the CPU on the front bottom left corner.
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #13 on: September 28, 2011, 05:44:46 PM »
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http://www.crazypc.com/other/misc/toast.htm

...yes I did say toaster and this is the one I meant.


LOL.  Someone here will install that!  :D
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Re: CUSA Amiga range will cost up to $25,000
« Reply #14 on: September 28, 2011, 08:27:54 PM »
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Is that thing in the pan some of Spammy's BS?  :D
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