My evening with Commodore USA, LLC

[Darrin]

red, I'm with Darrin on this one...you know that's a sore area for quite a few of us around here:(

I think it is the only sore area with us.  I don't understand why he had to do it.

[Darrin]

Be as negative as you wish, just please avoid the personal attacks.:hammer:

Are those my testicles under that hammer?  

[Darrin]

4 pints? What are you a girl?

:drink::drink::drink::drink::drink::drink: :pint::pint::pint::pint::pint::pint: = :insane:

The one on the right is a girl.

[Darrin]

But Darrin you don't have any testicles... :rtfm:

I do.  My wife keeps them in a pickle jar.

[Darrin]

None of the pictures Red took were of the upcoming Amigas.  There were all C64x/Vic series.  Wait until there is a "Amiga" from C=USA and then judge would be my advice.

We don't need to wait.  Screw your "Amigas".

[Darrin]

Seeya.  Don't let the door hit ya where the lord split ya.

I'll be here long after Mr Weasel and his minions have departed.

[Darrin]

That you are and quite an attractive one at that. I'd date you without a second thought. Unlike that guy on the left who seems so weak he needs 2 hands to hold up his beer :roflmao:

Oi!  I'm wanking with my left hand like any real man.

Here's her friend:

[Darrin]

I'd suggest you should avoid binge drinking unless you like having your liver swollen to twice it's normal size. Besides he could have passed out on the street, later waking up in a bathtub full of ice with his kidneys stolen. :roflmao:

I'll settle for waking up with my knob swollen to twice it's size and my ethics stolen.

[Darrin]

We shall see, we shall see. It should be an interesting ride though, won't it? I can't wait to see the Commodore name back in a major advertising blitz.

That isn't the problem.  It is seeing the Amiga name abused that I have issues with.

[Darrin]

They have a legal right to use it as they see fit. They hold a license and despite threats, there has been no legal action by Hyperion.

Legal or ethical?  Their ethics stink.

[Darrin]

Peoblem, you got a hangover this morning...

Doh!  That was Tex-Mex for "problem".  

[Darrin]

I think objections have been noted, your opinion has been considered. Are you seriously considering the opinions of others who are interested in this? Fine it doesn't have anything to do with Amiga, so freaking what, nothing since 1994 really has a direct link to Amiga anyway.

Something truly totally original has no market. And very little chance to be sold for any kind of a reasonable price.  That is were Natami and all the others are going, there is no bussiness sense in that. Where there is possibility is in starting something that has potential and building on that. And that is what Barry Altman seems to want to do.

Seriously, those of you with moral, ethical, whatever obejections to this need to get over it. It doesn't appeal to you fine, don't buy it. It is legal, it is going forward, and there are people interest in it. We don't care if it is a real resurrection of the "amiga" whatever you consider that to be.

Continuing to harp on this stupid "it's not an amiga" crap is ringing so hollow lately.

Your attitude stinks.  I look forward to seeing this effort fold and sink without a trace.

I can't see how a man can't be touted as a savvy businessman when he seems intent on alienating a portion of his potential customers.

I think that says it all really.

[Darrin]

Why are you telling folk to "get over it" folk are entitled to voice their views and opinions just like you do.

Who are this "We" you speak of, have you been nominated their spokesman ?

Again your comment "Fine it doesn't have anything to do with Amiga, so freaking what," why is it ok for you to make such comments but you insist on telling folk that there opinions don't count... blah, blah, blah...

Your continuing to harp on about other folks comments is also ringing very hollow, I think you can only ever see one side of an argument and it always seems to be yours...

The big mistake is "them" thinking that their potential customers opinions don't count.  They certainly do and "they'll" quickly discover that with shelves full of unsold inventory.

Looking forward to C-USA's "Grand liquidation, everything must go sale!"

[Darrin]

OS4 was not produced by commodore, or even AI, and it doesnt run on real 68k amigas.

Neither will Workbench 5.  Your point is?  Perhaps Commodore should have had their business plans stolen when they moved from the VIC-20 to the C64 as VIC software wouldn't run on that and it used a different CPU?

[Darrin]

Nothing was stolen!!! AI has licensed the IP to Hyperion, Cloanto, and CUSA. AI is not developing anything. Amiga was a 68k computer developed in the 80's and early 90's by Commodore International. None of these is the amiga or even a real succesor to the amiga.

This is 2011, nothing we have is related other than by license to the real amiga. But we can fight and squable and carry on about stuff we don't like, or we can relax, and like what we like and let others do the same.

There is an active "AMiga" product in the shape of OS4.x.

The "Amiga" name has been hijacked and is being deliberately used to undermine this long time and active product.

C-USA are a bunch of wasters and their actions are disgusting.

What don't you understand?

[Darrin]

This would have been the "sane" solution for C-USA:

Commodore PCs - a line of C= branded PCs running a variety of off-the-shelf OS's (Win, Linux, etc) or with a blank HD.
Commodore "Classic" PCs - as above, but with a Commodore themed case and AmigaForever/C64 Forever pre-installed with possily USB-Analog joystick adapters, joysticks and games.
Commodore Amiga cases - replacement cases for existing Amiga-like machines (Amiga1000-4000, OS4.x mobos, Minimig solutions, etc)
Commodore Amiga models - A line of Amiga compatable machines using Minimig/FPGA Arcade and eventually Natami supplied with a preconfigured SD Card containing ROMs, WB3.x and games.

Instead, they're up to something evil.