A4000 INTERNET WORKING WITH DENEB

[Darrin]

Here's a little something to share with everybody, I've got my A4000D surfing the net using the Deneb USB card, OS3.9 and an off-the-shelf PC USB Ethernet device.

Here's the USB Ethernet device I bought for $19.99:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=443248&CatId=589

I plugged it into the Deneb which immediately detected it and mounted it as USBASIXETH.DEVICE unit 0.

Save your USB settings.

Now configure Genesis using the wizard"
Select "Network" for how you plan to connect.
For device enter "usbasixeth.device" and set unit as "0"
Under SANA II configuration select "no"
Don't worry about it not detecting your network address, just manually enter your own (my home network assigns 192.168.0.xxx so I used 192.168.0.110).
Enter your subnet mask (probably 255.255.255.0) and your router address (in my case 192.168.0.1)
Enter your Domain Name Server (DNS) - 192.168.0.1 in my case
Enter your Domain Name ("cablerocket.net" in my case).

Reboot your Amiga and check your Trident prefs and you should see your ethernet adapter up and running.  Check Genesis and put the USBASIXETH0 device online if it isn't already.  Open your web browser and start surfing!

I hope this helps.  :-)

[Darrin]

OK, I had to make a post from my Amiga using AWeb IISE as I did the announcement from a PC.

A quick question, what is the best web browser to use on the classic Amiga today?

Aweb makes me constantly "OK" each cookie (I can't disable it in the prefs which may be a feature of the SE) and the screen is refreshed each time a new graphic is loaded (for example, to make this post the screen had to refresh once for EACH message icon!).

Cheers.

[Darrin]

Cheers guys.  I guess it's time to check the net for Ibrowse.  Is it free or does it need to be registered (can it be registered?)?

[Darrin]

taunusand wrote:

I also want Deneb USB  :bigcry:

I don't blame you.  It really opens up the expansion possibilities of a big box Amiga.

[Darrin]

taunusand wrote:
Get IBrowse 2.4 here
But, that is the unregistered version..
Read more at the homepage.

Cheers.  I've downloaded it and I'll give it a whirl later.

[Darrin]

Framiga wrote:
thats great!

as soon as you get some free time, could you try some speed test via FTP or such, between 2 systems onto your LAN?

Thanks!

Sure.  I'll find a big file and download it on a PC and the A4000 and compare the times.

[Darrin]

motorollin wrote:
Makes me think about selling my X-Surf and getting a Deneb + USB Ethernet. I wonder what an X-Surf wold go for...

--
moto

It would certainly be worthwhile.  The ability to still surf AND have USB is a great bonus.

So far everything I've connected to the Deneb has worked:
USB CD ROM (iOmega)
USB DVD+RW (HP model)
USB 3.5" Floppy
USB Ethernet
Memory sticks (Lexar & Sandisk)
2.5"/3.5" IDE/SATA to USB adapter

[Darrin]

OK, a rough test to comapre download speeds against my PC on the same network.

I wend to oldversion.com and selected a 6.2MB Firefox download.

Both the PC and Amiga are connected to my cable network via a wireless router, but using cables to the ports and not using a wireless connection.

The PC is an eMachine T6420 Athlon 64 3400+ and is using the onboard nVidia nForce Networking Controller 10/100.  IE used.

The Amiga is an A4000 68040 25MHz using the Trendnet USB2.0 device connected to the Deneb with Genesis.  AWeb II used.

6500352 Bytes

Amiga:  1min 39sec
PC:  21 secs

Now, if anyone has an X-Surf or similar and would like to repeat the test...

[Darrin]

I just tried that VICE-AROS file from Aminet.

Amiga:  2 min 35 sec
PC:  27 sec

Big difference!

[Darrin]

taunusand wrote:
It was nice for me to find out that my Amiga's download time is about just as fast to my "new(ish?)" PC :-)

Maybe there are a limited kb/s on USB?
I don't know...

I apologice for my bad english, I think there are some errors in what I wrote above. :-P

Your English is great.  :-)

Yes, it might be a USB limit.  I really should yank the USB device out of the Amiga and use it on the PC for testing, but the cable is attached to the internal USB port on the Deneb and I'll have to take the A4000 apart again in order to reattach it.

[Darrin]

RMK305 wrote:
Great thread!

Please do take the time to pull your machine appart to do that test. This is proving very informative and is making me  think about the USB option for connecting the AMIGA to the net

Could  you use a wireless network adaptor with the DENEB?

OK, I pulled the device from the A4000 and plugged it into the PC.  It asked for the install disk, loaded teh driver, told me there was a problem and then refused to recognise the device.  I rebooted and reinserted the device and it refused to even light up.

I plugged it into my Vista laptop which accepted it with no need for the driver CD and did the test from there.

download times on PC using USB Ethernet adapter:

Firefox:  22 secs
Vice-AROS:  27 secs

[Darrin]

taunusand wrote:
I tried to download the same Firefox that you did, again.
Amiga: 1min 46sec
PC: 1min 13sec

I wonder why it is faster than yesterday  :-?

These sort of tests are always a bit dodgy.  My cable modem has a habbit of disconnecting several times a day and I can notice speed increases and decreases all the time.

Perhaps pinging the Amiga from the PC with a set amount of data and seeing what the response time is would be a better guide to how well the USB Ethernet is performing on the Deneb?

[Darrin]

taunusand wrote:
How would you do that? My networking skills are not that good ;-)
Anyway, my internet should be 2048/512kbit. Normally it's faster, but not the last few days!

How about:

PING 192.168.0.110 -l

;-)

[Darrin]

@ Framiga:

Thnaks for that.  I was thinking about using another browser as my AWeb is definately crippled (due to it's inability to turn off cookie confirmation) which may also be affecting the speed.  I also have enough memory to increase the buffer sizes so hopefully that will make a difference too.

I'll have a go at it today and report the results.