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Offline pVC

Re: Installed MorphOS on my eMac, Now What?
« on: June 23, 2010, 06:37:07 AM »
Quote from: XDelusion;566632
So I'd like to set up the Emulation for classic Amiga so that when I double click on a classic App or Game, it will load. Also, is it possible to configure this to handle ADF files, I.E. read, or Launch them?


Yes, play around with the Ambient Mime prefs and you can do whatever you wish. You can even config rmb context menu to have different UAE/handling settings for ADFs etc...
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Re: Installed MorphOS on my eMac, Now What?
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2010, 07:40:54 AM »
Just doubleclick any 68k exe and it will start :) That doesn't need any configurating. If executed program is system friendly it is likely to work. If it needs any libraries etc, put them in SYS:Libs like on real Amiga, but for MUI classes, use SYS:Classes/MUI... it's bit different location than on old systems.

But if executed program needs custom chips, then you have to use UAE. Fab's UAE port has examples how to integrate it into Ambient.
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Re: Installed MorphOS on my eMac, Now What?
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2010, 10:01:10 AM »
Quote from: XDelusion;566891
I can't imagine using an Amiga like environment without Magellan II.


I couldn't agree more :). It was the main reason I originally went for MorphOS and didn't even think about OS4.

And while Ambient has lately got some of the most noticeable features of Magellan2, it still covers only fraction of all Magellan's features. There are still lots of nice details to bring over ;). I'm still so used to my Magellan setup that I mainly use it for everything in MorphOS.

About installing... I just copied my old setup from Amiga and haven't tried to use installer. I think that I only have one dopus5: assing in my user-startup and then D2A program in WBStartup, which launches and integrates the Magellan on Ambient in startup. Rest is in Magellan's own dir. If you don't have possibility to have it in same path on MorphOS like it was previously on Amiga, you may need to tune some paths for startmenus, icons, filetypes etc before everything works correctly... but it's worth it to do it :) Or use some assigns cleverly to avoid the need for reconfiguring :)
« Last Edit: June 24, 2010, 10:23:14 AM by pVC »
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Re: Installed MorphOS on my eMac, Now What?
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2010, 12:45:57 PM »
You apparently run Magellan on its own screen/window and/or didn't start it up with D2A/Magellambient.

As Magellan can't show PNG icons and other Ambient things, the purpose of D2A/Magellambient is to hide the original Magellan window and bring the functionality of it over Ambient. When you have those kind of problems, the original Magellan window hasn't been hidden.

Lets take D2A as an example as I'm using it nowadays. First set Magellan to use Workbench screen to avoid useless screen opening (Settings->Environment->Display->Workbench:Use). Then you have to disable backdrop mode from Magellan (from pulldown menus Opus->Backdrop) and I'd recommend you to resize Magellan window as small as you can get it to avoid too much visibility in startup, and then save layout (Settings->Save layout). Now you can test to execute D2A to hide the window and doubleclick Ambient desktop if you can get Magellan lister up. If you want to start Magellan automatically when you run D2A, add to D2A's tooltypes: "DOPUS_COMMAND=Run DOpus5:DirectoryOpus DETACH QUIET". Then you can have it copied in WBStartup to be run on every boot.

As Ambient also has option to open its window with doubleclick on desktop, you can configure D2A open Magellan lister with middle mousebutton too. Then you can open easily either Ambient or Magellan lister. Enable D2A's tooltype "MIDDLE" for that.

You can have Magellan's buttonbanks, startmenus etc over Ambient even when Magellan's main window is hidden. And you can get into Magellan's menus whenever there's its lister activated. Global hotkeys, scripts and most of the stuff will work even when no Magellan windows are activated, but some features like Icon Positioning can't be brought though..

EDIT: hmh.. is there option to disable smileys or something? That one line containing : and D was messed up...
« Last Edit: June 24, 2010, 01:06:52 PM by pVC »
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Re: Installed MorphOS on my eMac, Now What?
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 05:27:53 PM »
Quote from: XDelusion;566992
@PVC: D2A actually, that's how I got Magellan to share the same screen as Ambient. Though I'm not sure what you mean by D2A's Tooltypes, as it's just a file I drop in the Startup folder...
"add to D2A's tooltypes: "DOPUS_COMMAND=Run DOpus5irectoryOpus DETACH QUIET""


Well.. it might be the default option too, so if it works straight away, fine.

But I guess you have used Amiga that much that you know what tooltypes are and how to check them?

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Also, if I turn off backdrop, then how can I resize Magellan to be in the smallest window, I'm confused.


When window isn't backdrop, then it's visible with borders and thus resizeable. Just toggle the backdrop option and you'll notice :)
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Re: Installed MorphOS on my eMac, Now What?
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2010, 06:04:44 PM »
No, I'm saying turn it off (untick) and then resize it and save it and then don't do anything (except use D2A normally).
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Re: Installed MorphOS on my eMac, Now What?
« Reply #6 on: June 25, 2010, 06:23:21 AM »
Quote from: XDelusion;567118
Still no icons at the top of my lister. I checked to make sure the directory locations were correctly pointing to the icons, and all was well. Not sure what's up. Might I need to install NewIcons in MorphOS?


I don't think you should install anything. When you are editing the lister toolbar and on "Image" line where path is defined, if you click the drawer icon to open file requester, does it go to correct place and what happens if you reselect the wanted icon image?

And as you talk about NewIcons... do you have Dopus setting Environment->Icon display->Enable newicons set? I don't think it has anything to do this, but just in case.

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Also when I right click on a listing, it now scrolls down instead of bringing up the list of options like it did under AmiKit.


Check Environment->Lister Options->Name Mode PopUp.

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The ambient icons do not display correctly in the Dopus lister, but I can use them. What they display instead of what they are supposed to is a box that says Ambient PNG.


I never use dopus listers in icon mode anyway ;) You can execute programs in icon mode with qualifier key from name mode, so you don't have to switch the mode for that either.

But I have also made a button in my dopus lister toolbar which opens current directory in icon mode in Ambient window. I guess that could be useful for you too for viewing all icons. Add a button to your toolbar with function: open {s}
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Re: Installed MorphOS on my eMac, Now What?
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 07:52:11 AM »
Hmmm... weird. I found some icons which don't work properly... interesting, this needs more digging :P

1st, I'm using iff images on toolbar icons and they work fine. 2nd, I started to test some other icons and found that about half of the icons in OpusGIbar3 collection don't work on Magellan and also not in the Ambient's filerequester, but interestingly they do work in Ambient lister. On OpusGIbar4 collection they all do work everywhere, even the same icons which are problematic in version 3. They do have different size than earlier, so there have been changes. Were they somehow broken in earlier collection? Do you happen to have similar icons? Do they work on real Amiga? Lets try to find out :)
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Re: Installed MorphOS on my eMac, Now What?
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 09:49:34 AM »
Quote from: XDelusion;567494
Audio Patch?


I don't know if there's any separate patch, but there's 68k AHI updated exe for it and it works just fine on MorphOS. At least earlier you got it from the original authors when asking with email.
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