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Re: How is OS4 ?
« on: June 17, 2010, 05:38:29 PM »
Quote from: runequester;564814
from those who use it, or have in the past, how is amiga OS4 ?

Whats cool and fun ?


Cool thing is that it runs natively on faster and more recent hardware than previous versions and thus is much snappier on everything. And it's easy to install and it contains basic stuff to get started. There's also bit facelifting here and there over OS3.9. Warm reboot speed makes you smile ;)

But it feels still very immature and work is still needed here and there. There's lots of compatibility issues with "classic" software and Workbench itself would need a major rewrite as its functionality is still pretty much on the 3.9's level (which was even itself aged when it was released). Whole feeling is that it's just OS3.9 ported to PPC with lots of 3rd party programs patched up without proper consistency.

If you like later times on classic Amiga (H&P era with Reaction and patches added to OS) and are willing to do some compromises with compatibility and original features against speed and some new features, then you'd probably be happy with it. But if you have been using Workbench replacements like Magellan2 or want some more modern functions in usability and design, then you will be disappointed.
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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2010, 06:10:57 PM »
Doh.. I tried to keep on topic, but I'll still reply on couple of things... sorry.

Quote from: drHirudo;565159
And what happens if you need to boot from some other partion for some reason and it does not have SFS? I want to be able to access the old boot partition as well.


What do you mean? There can be many partitions on HD and they can be in whatever filesystem you want. No problem to have FFS, SFS and PFS partitions mixed. Or just have them all SFS for that matter. And any or even all of them can be bootable. I have had SFS and PFS3 partitions on my system for ages.. can't even remember when I had FFS.

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All the VMM applications I used on AmigaOS 3 sucked badly. There is a reason almost noone used VMM on AmigaOS 3.


Gigamem worked somehow as expected when I used it for some time. But I tried to have always enough real memory.. Amiga programs didn't need it that much.

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On AmigaOS 4, VMM is part of the OS. It's transparent. I hardy see anyone turning it off. Its a nice plus. I prefer to have it, and it works.


On my system it slowed down ramdisk access.. and caused some crashes in low memory situation. I don't like and I definitely don't recommend to use it (why OS4 users are now so in love with it, when they used to hate it on other operating systems? ;)). OS4 systems usually have at least 512M of ram, so where would you need virtual memory normally? I haven't ran it out ever. Not to talk about 1GB systems I have now.

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Not as good as Miami. The AmigaOS 4 TCP/IP stack is even better than Miami in my experience.


In my opinion AmiTCP/IP Genesis is much better than Miami, IF you don't happen to need DHCP or PPPoE. I only used Miami on dialups, but Genesis with network cards.
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Re: How is OS4 ?
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2010, 04:41:37 PM »
Quote from: TheBilgeRat;565631
:D

My WM in order would be:

Gnome
XFCE
OpenBox
Ratpoison
Cuneiform tablet
KDE 4:lol:


Urhg.. take Gnome to second last above KDE and then it's much better ;)
Daily MorphOS user and Amiga active.