Methuselas wrote:
I'm probably going to get slammed here, but who gives a sh!t about the people who are *STILL* using their Amigas for the internet, on antiquated browsers?
Amigan or ex-amigan, if anyone, should be able to understand other peoples will to use their own systems and just not looking their own belly. I just wonder these kind of opinions here... I bet you all have been in the situation with Amiga that other platform users have said similarly to you in some point.
Fact of the matter is, the internet left the Amiga (sans MorphOS and OS4) behind in the dust and b!tching and whining about it isn't going to solve anything. What browsers are out there for 68K are too slow and undeveloped, so it's not their fault they don't have adequate, browsing software.
68k browsers might have a lots of flaws, but I can't accept when they're called slow. I use them still, because they're so darn fast compared to more modern browsers in use.
IBrowse just flies on my Pegasos (G3/600) compared to OWB on same hardware, or compared to Firefox or Opera on my Mac Mini or PC. That's why I still use it. I don't like the overhead on modern browsers even with costs in compatibility.
In reality, it is. They're using antiquated hardware that just isn't suited for daily web browsing anymore. Sure, there are sites that keep to the old formats, but this is *YOUR* site and *YOU* warrant and updating of it. Yes, the donations come in to support the site. Yes, there's lots of genuine and friendly people on here, but times are changing and the first sign of ignorance is refusal to change.
I've been hearing this since 1993
Where to draw the line then, seems like to be very personal question, which most of people decide themselves.
I can understand how people want to use their Amigas to browse and do daily activities. I wish I had a motherboard formerly known as an "Amiga One" or a Pegasos, but I don't.
Sounds you gave one answer to yourself why you can't understand
They're expensive. PCs, are not.
Well.. Pegasos was never that expensive. I got my complete setup for 300e 5 years ago and new complete Pegasos2 systems were sold at 600e.
Generally talking that isn't that expensive in my opinion. Macs cost more, original Amigas cost way more, brand PCs cost more...
But of course there's nowadays powerful enough PCs for free too. I've got couple of 2.8GHz complete PC setups for free. But that's just because of insane upgrading cycles nowadays and shows how the PC keeps its price
The "Zealots", as you called them, can complain all they want about not being able to browse on their Amigas, but that's their own fault. They can't use the excuse of not being able to afford a PC, 'cos netbooks are dirt cheap. They don't want to get one, 'cos they don't want to use Windoze or Linux or MacOS, who are all seen as "the enemy" (one of the reasons I don't visit other Amiga sites). :roll: These people who are willing to shell out 300$ to buy some rare, archaic device for their equally archaic machine, but refuse to spend 200$ for a tiny netbook for the purpose of browsing shouldn't be a part of the equation, sorry to say.
I don't think that's the reason for anyone today. As said, computers can be dirt cheap nowadays (even though some people seem to be willing pay for them still for all kind of incredible reasons! (on PC side too, I mean))
It's just freedom of the choise. I have other computers than Amigas too. Mac Mini with OSX (currently), couple of PCs with W2k, XP and Linuxes. But only Pegasos and A1200 are in daily use. OSX is deadly slow for everyday use, PCs other issues. I just love the speed and usability on Pegasos for example. In theory I could use sites which won't work its browsers, but practise has shown, that I won't. Jumping around on different computers for different tasks isn't that comfortable.
Anyway, I'm not forcing my opinions to anyone. I never would have guessed myself that even more than every 10th visitor here uses still Amiga's browsers. That is surprisingly big number and I'd like people would respect that. If technical reasons make it impossible to support them, so be it, but if there's any options, I'd like them to be considered and not overlooked by own habits.
