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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« on: March 17, 2011, 04:00:49 PM »
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Um.. a nudity warning should have been posted.. I was watching this at work when tits showed up on the screen .. and it so happened that my boss was behind me along with
a fellow female coworker.. and guess what I was fired for looking at porn at work..

mmm. Thanks AMIGA.org and the op.

Talking with my lawyer now about this..


You keep a lawyer on retainer?  How often are you suing people?
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 04:04:54 PM »
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and who the heck would think a link posted here
on Aorg would have nudity in it...  


Given how Amiga boards have been for the last few years its certainly quite possible unfortunately.
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2011, 04:06:41 PM »
@Vlabguy1

Its pretty well known in the States that Europe's age recommendations for nudity are lower than they are here.
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2011, 05:01:29 PM »
Quote from: Vlabguy1;622506
oh really.  I guess Im not up on the regs and ages of nudity.  Fact is my boss and coworker are older than me and were offended and it probably had more to do with the fact that
its a workplace than anything.. fact more of a warning by the OP should have been given..

And so riddle me this why was the link removed for A.org?


You would not watch an NC-17 film at work using our rating system here in the United States.  Seeing 16+ on a board well known for international visitors is pretty obvious that its likely not work safe (given the mere 1 year difference), especially since you yourself point out we are more uptight about such as a nation.  Its hardly a "fact" that the OP should have warned you in a different manner than he already did.

The OP removed the link himself it appears.  Why he did, who knows.  The link has not been removed from the thread though by A.org.  They (and you) have left it up here:

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=622236&postcount=14
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2011, 05:07:36 PM »
Quote from: ral-clan;622510
"+16" doesn't mean anything to N. American readers.  Movies, etc. aren't rated that way here.

Sure it means something to N. American readers.  It means someone outside the U.S. has posted a warning.  It means one should think of the nearest equivalent in our country (that would be NC-17) and assume it means that until one finds out differently if you are at work.

It is widely known in the United States that Amigas are more popular with Europeans.  Its also widely known in the United States that Europeans are more lax on age requirements to view nudity and sex acts.  An American would write 17+ or 18+ for such material (we'd write a higher age and put the plus symbol after the number, not before). Therefore "+16" is quite clear regardless.

The OP also wrote "be careful".  You are sadly an example of what gives us Americans a bad name abroad, you take no personal responsibility for your own actions.
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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2011, 06:44:26 PM »
Quote from: Vlabguy1;622537
So what does NC17 mean genius?  Does it equal some guy molesting a woman's tits and showing a puss shot?  And a scene where moaning like she is riding the guy. I doubt it.  And please I give America a bad name..geez wow.. Um I think the US government does a good job of that..  Your giving me way too much credit.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=NC-17

Why yes it would likely get that rating if it were submitted to MPAA.

True on the government, they might pay you unemployment benefits!  :(
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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2011, 06:52:07 PM »
@Vlabguy1

People are still waiting to hear why you keep a lawyer on retainer and why you can not understand the additional warning given of "be careful" beyond the European formated (+16) warning.  You insist those two warnings are not enough to avoid suing someone.  Does it not register with you at all at how crazy that sounds??
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2011, 07:24:01 PM »
Quote from: foleyjo;622544
Oh and you are right to see a Lawyer. You should have been suspended while they conducted an investigation rather than just fire you on the spot


I've never heard of a suspension requirement in the U.S.:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2011, 07:41:47 PM »
Quote from: koaftder;622554
The guy who originally posted the link knew good and well it was against TOS, especially after the mild flack it got over at amigaworld.net.


Even if he did not know its his responsibility to read the TOS.  I don't see anyone defending it as a post that should be here.  People are defending that he gave plenty of warning that it was not work safe.  Thats two separate issues.

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I hope dude is just trolling and didn't get fired, it would be a shame if he did. These aren't exactly the best of times for job hunting. Usually you can't collect unemployment benefits if you get fired.


He is probably just trolling.  And it actually depends on why one was fired.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/unemployment-compensation-benefits-employee-eligibility-29898.html

I would suspect if this is an isolated incident he probably could make a pretty good argument for benefits.
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2011, 08:11:46 PM »
Quote from: ral-clan;622563
Okay...first of all, I'm not American.  You American's shouldn't assume that all people that live in N. America are from the US or you'll sadly give youself a bad name abroad.  Secondly, the original poster has edited his message.  When it was first posted all it said was something like "New Commodore Shot [sic] film +16".

"+16" doesn't mean a heck of a lot....I thought maybe he meant it was shot in 16mm film because he mis-spelled "short" to "shot".  A lot of amateur film makers shoot in 16mm film.


I figured you were not American since you said North America, that normally means its a safe bet its a Canadian writing such.  And I've been to several Canadian provinces and have liked each (Quebec the least though).  I also had a ton of respect for Canada taking flights in to land on 9/11.  So please don't go assuming that I'm someone who does not realize North America means more than one country.  

I switched to refer to the U.S. in the later sentence because the person who claimed to get fired said he is an American and he and I would be familiar with MPAA ratings.

And no it clearly originally said "be careful" in addition to "+16" because it was quoted in post 14 (since removed).

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=622236&postcount=14
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #10 on: March 17, 2011, 08:43:42 PM »
Quote from: Vlabguy1;622568
Private companies can make and police their own policies regarding offensive content viewed in the workplace.  If someone is offended by anything it can be reported to
human resources and appropriate action taken..  This is why companies typically
write an employee handbook.


Sure, but that has nothing to do specifically with at-will employment law.  If you think your supervisor broke an internal company rule in firing you directly then by all means take it up with the HR dept. of your former employer.  No one is here wishing you to be out of work.
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #11 on: March 17, 2011, 08:48:41 PM »
Quote from: Vlabguy1;622572
mmm.. so you think I'm American?  An assumption on your part.

I assume your a proper uptight Brit!


Nicholas and everyone else saw you say you live in the states.  You said it was the reason "+16" meant nothing to you.  If you are a foreigner living in the states you have even less of a leg to stand on with your argument.
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #12 on: March 17, 2011, 08:53:26 PM »
Quote from: Vlabguy1;622574
Um not it would get an "R" rating ..shows how much you know.  And give me one example of an NC17 movie or "made for tv" movie that shows this type of content..
And I'm talking a major motion picture not some Euro documentary or artsy flic.


What part of the word "likely" do you not understand?  Sure if it did not get an NC-17 it would get an R.  Neither impacts it being obvious that "+16...be careful" is not safe for work.  Basic Instinct was rated R and that would not be safe for work either.

Plenty of NC-17 movies show sexual content (you pointed out breast fondling for instance).

No "made for tv" movie would show such in the U.S.  

Again the simple point is "+16...be careful" is a clear concise not safe for work warning.  Let us know how your lawsuit against Amiga.org and the poster turns out.  lol
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #13 on: March 17, 2011, 08:57:02 PM »
Quote from: Vlabguy1;622575

There was nothing stopping the OP from editing his post and typing in "nude content"..


There was nothing requiring he do it either.  He was required not to post such at all, but thats between him and the A.org mods as a TOS issue.

Between him and you first off he owes you nothing.  You were clicking links from people you don't know at work.  Moving on to the question of simple courtesy he was fine though, he had you covered with "+16....be careful".  The fault here lies with you either being too dense to get the obvious, OR you got the obvious but did not expect to get walked in on in the act and now you are trying to transfer blame from the rightful owner (you) to the OP.
 

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Re: New commodore shot film +16
« Reply #14 on: March 17, 2011, 09:39:16 PM »
Quote from: Vlabguy1;622585

Dude "+16 be careful" DOES not mean sex scene, nude scene, boobs being massaged, full nude woman shot.


Its safe to say it means its not safe for work.  What reason its not safe for work is unclear from what was written, but thats besides the point.

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Please honestly when you clicked on did you expect an almost porn scene?  If you did then your the man.


I expected it was not safe for work because there was a warning posted with the link.  No I did not divine that it contains "an almost porn scene".  Again, thats besides the point.

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To me and a few others this so called warning was a bit lax when the OP could have just as easily typed "nude content".


No one is saying it could not be more specific.  A nudity warning would be helpful for someone at home around their wife or children for instance.  But you said your gripe was that it led to you losing your job and that you wanted to get your lawyer involved.  The threshold for something not being safe for work is much much lower.  If someone you don't know is telling you to be careful with a link don't click it at work, thats darn straightforward.

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A bit short sighted of him to assume this +16 means the same all over da world.


"Be careful" means the same thing all over "da world" if you can read English.  It means don't view it at work, at least not in front of others.