New Owner of Amiga.org to be on Amiga Roundtable.

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Hi Jens

Please stay, as the Site Admin I can assure you that everyone's personal information on  Amiga.org is secure. All members privacy is respected and kept safe.

You were surprised recently when the anonymous large donor to Amizilla closed that DFX sponsored bounty.  Lets hope you are not surprised again by some action of the new anonymous owner of Amiga.org in the future.

At a minimum the new owner has done something very confusing already.  And even though you were the middleman on the deal, his site admin, and a co-host of the ART show, you could not convince him to stick with his decision.  Ultimately he is the person in charge, and he has already shown he is not afraid to leave you and MobbyG holding the bag, or to do stuff other than what you would want.

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A fair question and concern.  Thank you.
If I were to make an educated guess, I'd say that Bill and I had completely talked them into the ART announcement thinking it would be the best way to do it.  Unfortunately, I think that the new owner(s) are much more private person(s) than that and really don't want to be the center of things or to be a "rock star" in the community.  

The problem is he or she agreed to the announcement and then bailed last minute.  The community did not ask for a show with this event as the highlight.  But once it was told it was getting it and told it should tune in, it should have gotten it.  Amiga history clearly tells us that hype with no producing what was hyped is bad news.

Since you are not sure if they are singular or plural owners, does this mean you've never spoken to any of them?

Bill does have a history of using buffers.  If his account at aw.net ever said anything off he'd say he did not write it but that an employee he had to scold/discipline for it did.  He said he ran the money on the Amizilla bounty, but when it was closed, he said he actually did not.  I hope that we don't end up in another situation where things are done and then the new site admin blames the new owner.  Someone just as faceless as the other above examples.

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Isn't it likely that the new owner(s) is/are the same company that has recently gotten some criticism, either here or on other Amiga related website forums for advertising practices and then shortly afterward has gotten outright attacked for some unfavorable actions regarding a long running contest?  That same company would likely want to wait until the unfavorable attention has been mostly forgotten, or at least has stopped being written about before revealing themselves to be the new owners of Amiga.org and risk the unfavorable attitude regarding the other actions that are unrelated to this site having a negative impact here, and possibly even causing a few more members to leave here.  

Well that would be kind of crappy to announce after we've already been told that DFX's owner was only a middleman to get the deal done.

My guess, and its completely a guess is that Tedd Gallion is the anonymous Amizilla donor and the anonymous new owner of Amiga.org.  Now Bill says Tedd is not an employee, but he has posted under Bill's DFX account at aw.net a number of times and someone purporting to be him posts on Moo Bunny and even published an alleged email from Bill telling him to stop posting there.  In that case I guess they could still argue Bill is not the new owner, but it would come off as murky IMHO.

So anyway, I hope you and I are both wrong on our guesses.

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...it is odd and uncomfortable that the new owner has not stepped in and introduced themselves to us the way we would have liked

No its "odd and uncomfortable" that the new owner has not introduced themselves to us in the way they agreed to and bailed at the last minute from doing so.  There was never any request from the community that he/she reveal themselves on the ART show.

Either stick to your guns to stay anonymous from the start with no fanfare/circus or just politely introduce yourself without any hype/public promotion vehicles.  Whats so hard about that?

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I'm just curious about something.

Botched announcement aside (and that's what it was), is there ANYONE IN THIS ENTIRE COMMUNITY -- hell, even on this planet that you guys would NOT be having this little melodramatic hissy fit over?

The only melodrama I see here is a new owner who agreed to go on a hyped show to "reveal him/herself" and then was a no show.  I didn't ask for the new owner's name before that.  I didn't ask for a hyped delivery vehicle for that news either.  And neither did most folks.  This little podcast media circus thing was not the community's doing.  

You don't want to be revealed, fine don't agree to be revealed.  You are private and shy but want to reveal yourself, fine don't choose a hyped media event that you will chicken out of.

Instead of going on offense to say the community is the issue maybe the simplest answer is the best one.  The new owner screwed up and wasted folks time.

And sorry but it does not help to have weirdness with this anonymous entity tied to Bill after there was other weirdness with another anonymous entity tied to Bill just a couple of weeks ago.

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As a webmaster and forum guru, I have my own quirks.  I have my own pet peeves, I am insanely predictable when it comes to getting certain buttons pushed, and for a lot of the same reasons each time.

Well lets just hope its not the former Netscape exec guy replacing you.  I found the message he had published through Bill a bit creepy, with that talk about removing donations and withholding other project donations based on him taking things not even said about him at all as personal insults.  It was just plain weird.

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As for this being blown out of proportions... god yes... I´ve never seen so much fuss over such a simple little thing like a website changing owners, i cant imagine that this would be anything more then a "non-event" on any other non amiga related site?

It changing owners is not an issue.  Nor would it be an issue if the new owner stayed anonymous from the get go (IMHO anyway).  The show came to us however seeking an audience for this "event" a.k.a. coming out party.  Not the other way around.  The show was the one advertising and with exclaimation marks about this.

On non-amiga sites there would not have been a podcast event for this in the first place.  

The secrecy in general seems silly for starters.  The no-show is someone not keeping their word.  Thats disappointing and not the best way to start a relationship.

Any way you slice it that was not cool.  Now maybe you think people have "overreacted".  But it sure would be nice if folks running stuff in Amiga land stopped making the same mistake over and over and over and over again (i.e. the failed announcemet of an announcement) creating silly situations begging for reactions in the first place.

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Don't worry guy, your continual posting on this matter provides complete confirmation of the absence of any caring on your part. :rolleyes:

You are welcome to your opinion.  "This matter" was entirely unnecessary.  I did not start this thread.  And I have only posted replies to the posts of others.  

I personally think its pretty messed up for an Amigan to pull something like this after all the similar sideshows we have been subjected to over the years.  Its not important to my daily life, but its my opinion nonetheless.  If you don't like that I reply to others from that perspective oh well.

Oh, and BTW, as someone from NYC I have to say I find your inclusion of 9/11 in your mocking rant distasteful and unnecessary.  Thats just more crap drama that none of us need.