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OS4 - This is hard!!!
« on: January 09, 2011, 09:48:08 PM »
Hi to all,

first of all the config:
° A1200 mobo 1D4
° "Power M-disk (HD)
° DCE FlickerMagic
° Elbox PC-Key 1200
° HyperCOM 3+ clockport
° HK Computer Vector Maus & Joystick adapter (plus)
° modification to use hard reset
° Mediator PCI 1200
+ Terratec 512i (PCI)
+ Voodoo3000 16Mb (PCI)
+ D-Link DFE-530TX (PCI)
+ Elbox Spider II USB (PCI)
° Blizzard 603+ (50/240) + 256 Mb
° IDE-Fix 97
+ Maxtor 6Y080L0-YAR & PlexWriter PX-716A (on one cable)
+ LS120 (on the other cable)

Before yesterday I had no mod for reset and the CD was a generic 40x.
I had 3 partitions on the HD (1.0 Gb + 1.5 Gb + 2.0 Gb): OS3.9 in the first, data in the second, OS4.0 in the third... ALL FUNCTIONING!!!
Funny also that I used international FFS without long names for OS4... I didn't know anything about this...
Yesterday I made the mod and I changed the CD reader and I discovered what follows:
° OS4 did not boot anymore! I received the standard 3 colours blinking (red, blu, magenta) and then OS4 went rebooting continuously on the magenta screen (magenta + black + magenta + black...);
° I cannot use a better file system than FFS international!
+ For example if I have OS3.9 with international FFS on the first partition and a blank FFS + long names on the second one and nothing else... OS3.9 does not boot!!! ERROR!!!
° my only solution is to install OS4 with FFS international and WITHOUT using the Voodoo!!! Forcing AGA!!! :( and this is also very strange since...
... OS4 installation is done with the Voodoo @ 800x600 and the AGA output after installation is through the Voodoo!!!

HEEEEEEEEEEELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have some ideas but I prefer to wait some help by you.

One note: I have not tried to remove the IDEFix since I do not have a cable 2.5 => 3.5 so I could not use an HD + CD.

Thanx to all!
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A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 1240/40 +
A1200 +K3.1 +Blizzard 1230/50+CoPro +
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Re: OS4 - This is hard!!!
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2011, 06:00:30 PM »
Quote from: AlfaRomeo;605339
Sounds like a hardware fault rather than software


ARGH!!! I lost some heartbeat reading this...

The "strange" things is that OS3.9 works great!!!
Anyway it seems that the problem is that the Amiga does not like better filesystem than the standard one (FFS or DOS/03)... I am supposing that the problem is the IDEFix card.
Another problem I found is that, when I wrote the RDB with OS4, my Amiga did not like it (even if using OS3.9) while the RDB written with OS3.9 is good...

The question is: is anybody using OS4 with A1200 and with HD directly connected with the mobo (and with two units attached to the cable)?
And with IDEFix (or similar HW)?
If so, are there some special settings to do?

Thanx
A500 +A600 +A1000 +A1200 +CDTV
A500 +K3.0 +Viper520CD +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 603+ (240/50) +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 1240/40 +
A1200 +K3.1 +Blizzard 1230/50+CoPro +
A2000 +K3.1 +A2630 +
A3000 +K3.1 +Cyberstorm MkIII +
A4000 +K3.1 +A3630 +
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Re: OS4 - This is hard!!!
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 06:50:50 PM »
Quote from: Bamiga2002;605429
Have you tried booting with your cd-drive disconnected?


Yes, using IDEFix and nothing changes.
No, connecting the HD directly to the mobo... but I do not have the cable right now and I would like to have some feedback before buying it!
A500 +A600 +A1000 +A1200 +CDTV
A500 +K3.0 +Viper520CD +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 603+ (240/50) +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 1240/40 +
A1200 +K3.1 +Blizzard 1230/50+CoPro +
A2000 +K3.1 +A2630 +
A3000 +K3.1 +Cyberstorm MkIII +
A4000 +K3.1 +A3630 +
A4000T +K3.1 +A3640 +
 

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Re: OS4 - This is hard!!!
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 07:17:23 PM »
Quote from: zylesea;605432
Whenever I had trouble with my Frankenamiga I completely disassembled it, booted the nakd maschine with a floppy and then tried to add one thing again after another to see when it fails.


My problem is that I cannot do the only thing I think it's important! :-o
Using only an HD and CD without IDEFix! :(
A500 +A600 +A1000 +A1200 +CDTV
A500 +K3.0 +Viper520CD +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 603+ (240/50) +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 1240/40 +
A1200 +K3.1 +Blizzard 1230/50+CoPro +
A2000 +K3.1 +A2630 +
A3000 +K3.1 +Cyberstorm MkIII +
A4000 +K3.1 +A3630 +
A4000T +K3.1 +A3640 +
 

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Re: OS4 - This is hard!!!
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 09:06:32 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;605467
I have to admit, I share the sentiments regarding CD drives. My last os4 (beta) install was from a (remotely) mounted ISO image, I never even bothered contemplating burning it to disc.


Well... I did not even know that it's possible... :-o Does exists a program like Daemon tools for Amiga? I read the best one is VirtualCD, is this right?
A500 +A600 +A1000 +A1200 +CDTV
A500 +K3.0 +Viper520CD +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 603+ (240/50) +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 1240/40 +
A1200 +K3.1 +Blizzard 1230/50+CoPro +
A2000 +K3.1 +A2630 +
A3000 +K3.1 +Cyberstorm MkIII +
A4000 +K3.1 +A3630 +
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Re: OS4 - This is hard!!!
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2011, 10:00:43 PM »
Quote from: motorollin;605478
Yes I can confirm that this works. AmigaKit made me a custom cable with a 44 pin female connector on one end (to go the A1200 mobo), and two 40 pin female connectors (one to go to the HDD and one to the CD drive). I was able to install OS4 from CD to HDD with that setup.


Well, the reason why I had to use that cable was because the buffered interface was preventing the machine from booting OS4, causing exactly the symptoms you describe (repeatedly cycling through the red/blue/magenta boot colours).


IIRC there's something you can edit in startup-sequence to enable the buffered interface to work. If you can edit your OS4 startup-sequence from OS3.9 then you might be able to do it. Otherwise, you'll have to reinstall without the buffered interface, edit startup-sequence, then re-attach the buffered interface.

Edit - Link to the thread where I was helped by several people to solve this problem. In particular, the post by Framiga on the bottom of page 3:



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moto


Really thanx!!! I have to leave home for some days for work but, for sure, I will try next weekend!!! :)
A500 +A600 +A1000 +A1200 +CDTV
A500 +K3.0 +Viper520CD +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 603+ (240/50) +
A1200T +K3.1 +Blizzard 1240/40 +
A1200 +K3.1 +Blizzard 1230/50+CoPro +
A2000 +K3.1 +A2630 +
A3000 +K3.1 +Cyberstorm MkIII +
A4000 +K3.1 +A3630 +
A4000T +K3.1 +A3640 +