Is emulation based x86 machines in Amiga cases really a no no? or......

[Amiga_Nut]

Is the proposed price point of the ones Commodore USA were planning to build the actual problem, which was effectively maybe 4x the cost of the x86 components.

Put it this way, would you buy a reasonably priced A1200 look alike computer running on an i7 or an i5/Llano based A600 look alike computer?

And if this is something some people would consider what is a reasonable price point do you think for this sort of thing

I'm not saying it's good or bad I am asking if you took away the excessive price tags for the proposed Amiga/c64x i7 machines would they then become something you would consider, even as a novelty, to get your WinUAE kicks on for example?

[Amiga_Nut]

I'm also using it for feeding my ZX Spectrum, with fastloading games.

You may be interested in the ZX Spectrum laptop then

[Amiga_Nut]

Same can be said for PPC mobo in a Amiga Case.

I am in agreement for once in my life *shock*. For me personally PPC stuff like x1000 and and SAM460 running UAE for Amiga OS4.2 are no more Amiga than a DELL PC running Windows and WinUAE for me either. Other people have their reasons for needing 1ghz OS4 compatible machines sure but I don't see it as Amiga if it can't load my original Cinemaware 3.5 floppy disks directly. For me that is the definition of an Amiga.

[Amiga_Nut]

Interesting responses to poll and in thread comments. It's not that I want C-USA to do this at all and this is not what I would consider related to the Amiga (ie Commodore machines built from 1985-1994) but merely a custom PC for retro fans out there who can't do this for themselves. Essentially what you would be paying for would be the service of doing the construction/design/engineering work. I am sure many of us here could do this ourselves tomorrow if we really wanted to, but there are people out there who wouldn't know where to start with such a project.

Let me just be clear that what I was trying to gage is if there are any people in the world who would buy a reasonably priced (ie no more than your semi budget average PC in PC World) computer that looks like an Amiga to get a bit more of the enjoyment of the nostalgia trip of playing all those old games on UAE/WinUAE.

Approx 200-300 people obviously bought a C64x to do just that, and that's without any kind of interface to use real 9 pin classic joysticks

If people wanted it, and at a very reasonable price, this can happen. It's like anything in the business world, if there is a demand......

[Amiga_Nut]

I'd rather stick a beagleboard or similar in an old Amiga case and hang around for the ARM native AROS port to be honest. If a cutting edge ARM machine running AmigaOS would magically appear I'd snap it up, but people throw away x86 machines that are perfectly capable of running an Amiga emulator so I'm hardly going to fork out for one because it has a nice case.

So a lower power more expensive ARM board compared to AMD £99 MiniITX/CPU setup to run a less stable/more complicated version of UAE emulation on via a non existent release of AROS for playing old Amiga games via ADFs? nice

(If it can't physically load actual Amiga floppy disks and doesn't have a Paula chip on the motherboard it isn't actually an Amiga)

I would like to direct you all to the following site to post your feelings on the subject of a new Amiga

http://www.the-amiga.blogspot.com

[Amiga_Nut]

My Amiga case with a PPC board is NOT false advertising.
It's an Amiga in an Amiga case (what makes an Amiga case is highly debatable anyway) running a real, proper Amiga Operating system.
Not some wannabe Linux based OS.
A LADA with a BMW body is still a LADA.

No, it's an OS4 compatible, OS4 being some software some Germans THINK is what is Amiga and need UAE to run Rocket Ranger.

How the fek is that Amiga? I can run classic software Amithlon on X86 hardware just as fast as on MOS or OS4 so that's full of fail.

If all you want is an OS4 computer cool, me I want either an Amiga or something that doesn't cost £1200+ for the "pleasure" of running what Hyperion wants me to think is Amiga

edit: I did NOT see the post above before writing my comment. What is plainly clear is had Amithlon been developed further we would have no need for the OS4 MOS pretenders

Amiga has a Paula chip and loads Cinemaware floppy disk originals with realtime access FACT. Anything else is emulation sorry if that offends people.

[Amiga_Nut]

Okay, I suppose I was muddling things up a little bit there. My ire is for OSX as much as for the Intel switch, I kind of perceive them as the same thing since both happened after I was no longer using a Mac regularly.


Even if that's true (and I disagree, I got along quite happily on classic Mac OS for years before I moved to PCs,) at least they were their own junk, and not just BSD with a non-X desktop environment.

NEXT OS for office environment is better than Windows 7/OS X or Linux. I am sorry that people feel the need to forget the past but as an ITIL qualified Service manager for 15 years you can take that as fact.

OSX does NOT include all features of NEXT OS even today sadly.

[Amiga_Nut]

Just had pasta (DeCecco Orecchiette Aglio&Olio) for my evening meal, but wouldn't mind about some Börek.

The great thing about Börek is you can have both sweet and savoury versions, meaning you could still have it for afters too

[Amiga_Nut]

I never said anything against NeXT, just that it isn't Mac.

OSX took a bit of NEXT but yes I agree, NEXT <> Apple Mac sadly.

[Amiga_Nut]

No. Only the Amigas from Amiga1000 to Amiga4000T are computers from the past and anyone can continue to fix and use them.

An Amiga does not need Custom chipsets to be called an Amiga. I don't want to use "for example Wordworth" at this age either. So dump classic compatibility altogether.

This is an interesting point, if we dump all the historic applications and games for Amiga what are we left with? Sure I agree new stuff like a decent web browser on the level of Chrome is way off for OS4/MoS but if it has nothing to do with the past and only emulates what makes an Amiga an Amiga then why should it be allowed to be called Amiga Next Gen when my PC does all that via Windows except run MoS or OS4 (both of which are nothing special at all).

These Amiga Next Gen systems have less sophisticated custom silicon in them than my two PCs and also run slower. I remember the Amiga being faster and cheaper than PC/Mac thanks to unique design....not slower and more expensive.