Vulcan Software Limited and Amiga, Inc. announce new relationship

[Legerdemain]

I don't get it. Some of the things posted in this thread seems so beyond me I can't believe it.

1. Of course Amiga, as a company, want's to be profitable. No matter how much people think they have failed to deliver I think it is beyond ridicilous to think that they are just fooling around to make the trial go their way or to make false promises to the community. No sane person would enter an agreement with City of Kent, where they have to provide money, just to fool around doing nothing. Of course Amiga Inc. are doing what they can to secure their funds.

2. Nintendo delivered their VirtualConsole. The hardcore emulator people screamed 'screw Nintendo, why buy old games when I can emulate them on my computer'. Well, sorry, but Nintendo delivered big time with their Virtual Console on the Wii. Games are selling very well, and if anything I think the market should be happy that the companies at last are trying to make old classic games available again with fair prices in mind. Virtual Console is nothing but a success and the hardcore emulator people were wrong.

3. Magnussoft have of course not gained the rights to include each of the games on the Amiga Classix series. Some of the games included are even from defunct companies. I might be WAY OFF here, and since that is a possibility I should state right away that I haven't actually dug up some proof of Magnussoft delivering games which the company hasn't got a license for... but looking at the prices of the compilations and looking at the games included, there is no logic whatsoever behind the companies, having produced the games, entering any kind of agreement to allow these kind of products.

4. In the end people might think whatever they want about 'abandonware' (which isn't a legal term, just a term made up term to justify illegal spreading of old games) and that one shouldn't have to pay for old software. But, in the end, the companies owns the rights and if they want to sell their old games for quite low prices, I for one, think that it should be appreciated that they at least are making an effort of making their games commercially available again. It's not like they are forcing anyone to buy their products, but at least they are not sitting on their copyrights doing nothing with them (and thus not forcing people to come up with such terms as 'adandonware').

It's not something major, this. It's rather a small move which shouldn't upset anyone. Not taking your feelings towards Amiga Inc. into consideration, what is there to dislike about this? Really?

[Legerdemain]

vulture software and mr bill "scammer" mcewen's amiga inc are selling abadonwarez, there is no doubt about that. they even grab screen shots from other sites for godsake!... all they uses is their romz... i bet if you even take a close look at the adf you will see the games are cracked...

Is this what this thread needs? At least if your critizism had been constructive, but you are just going on and on and on without even trying to keep up with reality. Cracked? Well, prove it, then! Even so, if the games would be cracked, the crack in the first place were illegal. It's not like Vulcan would be stealing the 'crackers' hard work earning money on it (but that is a completely different discussion).

They can't be selling abandonware, since there is no such thing as 'abandonware', legally speaking. Not minding MindWalker (don't know what's the deal with that game) but it is perfectly possible that Vulcan still owns the rights to distribute the games they haven't developed themselves. As for the games they have developed themselves, of course they have the right to sell them (which I highly doubt Magnussoft has, considering one can find many many games on the Amiga Classix series, many even from defunct companies... and how on earth would he get a license to stuff that many games on the collections and charging a bargain for it? No sane company in the world would allow that kind of exploit).

What is your point (and why on earth is this kind of ranting tolerated at all - moderators)?