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Re: The coolest thing I've seen this week
« on: October 20, 2008, 09:52:18 AM »
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da9000 wrote:
Apple has been using them for about a year now AFAIK. They are now a standard part, unlike other manufacturers.


Apple don't make screens.

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BTW, how much 3rd party software did you have to remove to get some of the HDD space back and have the computer running properly again? :-)


Basic partitioning tools are free.

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Like every other company (and just like almost products you are using daily, yes, YOU), Apple also uses Chinese plastics and chemicals.


I wonder what the difference is between Chinese plastics/chemicals and the stuff everyone else uses... hmmmmmm absolutely nothing? A lot of factories outside China use Chinese plastics.

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The difference is that they try to use parts that contain the least of known hazardous materials, but which still offer the same or better quality.


Steve jobs told you that personally? The materials they use will be dictated by the laws regarding which materials they are allowed to use. Batteries for example contain all sorts of nasties,... Apple use exactly the same cells as everyone else because just like the screens they don't make them.

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Don't expect any "dying from milk babies" problems from their camp. Now as to what Dell or HP or Acer use for their computers...


Whatever apple tells you in their marketing stuff; They use EXACTLY the same raw materials as everyone else, because just like everyone else they don't produce the parts that make up their machines.

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This has nothing to do with fanboism, but more with facts (as they were presented and which you can easily double check on your own).


Seems very much like a case of fanboism here to me.

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If you've truly used a Mac, and you're hating it right now, then I'm all ears -


I use a Mac... but Mac OS X is bloody awful, it's running Debian. Enough said. The build quality of the previous macbook generation is pretty shocking to be honest considering how much they cost.
 

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Re: The coolest thing I've seen this week
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2008, 11:00:46 AM »
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pyrre wrote:

The Chinese have been known to STILL use lead in their "environmentally" friendly plastics....


And guess what... factories in the EU use materials sourced from China. I worked running injection molding machines between university stints and loaded bags of material with "Made in China" and hanzi written all over the bags into the hoppers... so I'm not just giving you "stuff I found on the internets"
 

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Re: The coolest thing I've seen this week
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2008, 10:05:13 AM »
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Yes, now you've totally convinced me! You definitely use a Mac. Should I start laughing now?


mac-chan:/home/daniel# getSystemId
Libsmbios:    2.0.3
Error getting the System ID:
Service Tag:  SystemSerialNumb
Express Service Code: 9223372036854775807
Product Name: MacBook2,1
BIOS Version:     MB21.88Z.00A5.B07.0706270922
Vendor:       Apple Inc.
Is Dell:      0

mac-chan:/home/daniel# lsusb
Bus 005 Device 004: ID 05ac:8300 Apple, Inc. Built-in iSight (no firmware loaded)
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 05ac:8240 Apple, Inc. IR Receiver [build-in]
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 005: ID 05ac:021c Apple, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 046d:c040 Logitech, Inc. Corded Tilt-Wheel Mouse
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 003: ID 05ac:8205 Apple, Inc. Bluetooth HCI MacBookPro
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub


The only "crank" here is you.
 

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Re: The coolest thing I've seen this week
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2008, 11:51:44 AM »
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ami_junki wrote:
Well I guess I stand corrected hehe ... so you say, don`t .... bang ..... head .... on ..... screen


Screen on my macbook cracked last week, a massive dot appeared on the screen where the juice dripped out of it.
Apple* did fix it under warranty, probably because most of the onboard USB hardware (iSight etc) had also died at some point, I don't use them so I hadn't noticed. My harddrive died 4 months or so after I bought the machine..
The main problem with the previous gen macbooks is that the super-eco-green plastics (tm) they are using aren't all that rigid and the stuff contained within the case takes a lot of twists as a result. Luckily my misses managed to get a free 5 year insurance policy out of Kojima when we bought it, so I just have to break it and claim a next generation one when I feel like it. ;)


*I say Apple, it was actually some company out in the sticks that did the repair. Apple don't do post in returns in the UK anymore so you have to find an authorised third party to do the work.