Convert PC Floppy to Amiga Floppy?

[amigaksi]

>Is it possible to convert a PC floppy disk to an Amiga (A500+) floppy? I have some adf games and I want to try them out on the A500+ but I do not have any A500+ floppies left!

>Even if I buy A500+ floppies I would still not be able to save the adf on my computer onto those floppies since then the PC would not support them! So what am I to do?

Hi Sim, you can try the Floppy Simulator here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320283041600

You won't have to transfer them over; you can just boot the Amiga 500+ with the ADF file you want (upto 128 tracks).  You can also transfer them over with this cable and software if you use the cable in conjunction with an external floppy drive.

>Also would adf files be read directly by the A500+ or I need some conversion tool?

ADFs are just sector by sector image of original disk (11 sectors/track*2 sides*80 tracks*512 bytes/sector = 880KB).  Sometimes, they contain more than 80 tracks, but the floppy simulator can handle from 1 track to 128 tracks.  A500 trackdisk software won't directly read files of ADFs unless you modify it.

[amigaksi]

>by darksun9210 on 2008/8/12 7:57:42

>not being funny, but i haven't heard of anyone using those "floppy simulators".

Your limited experience is the reason for your erroneous conclusions.
 
>and to be honest, a cable going directly from the amiga floppy port to a parallel/serial port on a PC? yeah, right oh.

No, not serial port.  Parallel port.  If you had studied your Amiga and PC before blurting out your erroneous conclusions, you would know that parallel ports and the amiga floppy ports use TTL voltages whereas serial ports use higher voltage levels.

>but unless someone is willing to try this and risk blowing up either their PC or amiga, a call shinanigans on that... as surely if it was that easy, we'd have had this nailed years ago?

That's what they told Newton as well when they ridiculed him:

http://books.google.com/books?id=Yn64kRZiUvcC&pg=PA2&lpg=PA2&dq=newton+was+ridiculed&source=web&ots=WUjr2ggAez&sig=xDxI1Z2KhvUFSi3NUzZ5kyVX27I&hl=en&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=2&ct=result

I hate googling but you need immediate answers.  As I stated your errorneous conclusions are a result of your limited experience.

>looks to me like someone wants to get rid of a job lot of PC floppy cables, and made a botched job of the connections.  (not that i would be able to do any better  )

Why don't you try it out or ask someone who has or ask for a reference to a person from me who has tried it out instead of speculating your brains out.  I have been using the floppy simulator for a few years now.  Only in 2006, I released it for general purpose use.  I have a PC hooked up to an Atari and an Amiga simultaneously and can write a program that splits itself and shares resources on all three-- beats any PC that you will ever have since I'll always have the advantage of running Atari/Amiga stuff along with PC stuff.

[amigaksi]

>by sim085 on 2008/8/15 2:20:42

>Yes I plan to buy one of these to share internet connection on my A500+ as well

I thought the thread was over but I'm glad I decided to re-read it.  Anyway that floppy simulator link is now different:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320287359400

Yeah, it does come with 14-day money back guarantee.  And there is no botch-job on the cable.  There is purposefully a cut in the cable to allow for jumpers for simulating DF2: and DF3: and the cables are made by a cable manufacturing company not at home.  Some people don't even read the description before they post their narrow-minded opinions.

[amigaksi]

>by arion on 2008/8/15 3:48:42

>I´ve read about using a null modem cable but i have never seen one so where might i get one ? Do i have to order one online or can i get one from any computer store ?

I tried that using Amiga Access and Windows Terminal and it does allow you to transfer stuff, but it's really slow and clumsy way to do things.  Storage is one of the reasons I developed the floppy simulator-- PC storage is definitely better with CD-Rs/DVD-Rs, more robust hard drive technology, etc.  so it's better to keep data there and use it when needed on the Amiga/Atari end without having to rely on read/write errors of floppy disks.  Of course, PC HDs also crash eventually and I wonder why the modern OSes don't support a redundant system-area so even if the boot-area goes bad, it can use another part of the hard drive to boot from.