by asymetrix on 2008/8/3 22:45:02
>This thread is so silly.
Well, your comments don't help to improve it.
>1) This shrinkage changed the speed of the original chips by laws of physics.
>This equals not cycle exact.
First you have to have a frequency that you are talking about before you claim it's not cycle exact. You can have something execute by the time the cycle time you want is expired, and the shrinkage won't affect the cycle exact nature as everything will be ready to be clocked in at the next cycle.
>2) from OCS to AGA the design changed again, speeds changed again, design changed for 32 bit support.
>This equals cycle change again.
No, the OCS Copper still run at 3.57954525Mhz on AGA. The OCS Paula still has a sampling rate divisor of 3.57954525Mhz. The CIA timer still runs at 715909Hertz. CPUs were purposely put at higher clock rates with faster memory; they weren't trying to keep them running at the same clock frequency since the timing could still be done via other methods (CIA, Copper, using a Paula sound channel as the original poster's sound software does).
>There is no such thing as cycle exact, its just marketing hype.
Yes there is and on the Atari 800, even the CPU at 1.7897Mhz is cycle exact as well as it's timers, DLI, VBI, etc. since they never bothered to upgrade CPU speeds.
>IF hardware can run Amiga OS and Amiga programs the same way as Commodore Amiga then its Amiga. Simple as that.
If the programs use the cycle exact nature of the Amiga which was maintained in all of its models and it does not run the same on a "new" software or hardware amiga, then that's not a real Amiga. Why would Commodore bother keeping all those timings the same in future models if cycle exact was just hype.
>Software, hardware, simulation, emulation its all Amiga.
I believe many people familiar with hardware will disagree with you.
>Simply put, do you actually think a normal user cares what hardware it is ?
You can also say fake diamond is the same as a real diamond if it looks the same. But some people have use for the real one and to claim it's all the same is being vague and misleading.