New Mainboard released ...

[amigaksi]

>by Olecranon on 2008/5/22 23:28:43
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>Seems odd... People mount their A1200s/A4000s into PC Tower >cases to gain room for cooling, modern power supplies, and >drive expansion. Now here is a new board that wants you to >use the old cases.

I would think he can sell a 1000+ if the power supply was replaced (or replaceable) with a rechargeable li-ion battery w/inverter and connector for lcd.  If you are going to make so many hardware upgrades, mine as well go for it all with the latest while maintaining compatibility.

>Sorry, seems like a bad idea. Even though the retro look is >cool, It doesn't make sense to me. The majority of A1000
>cases are old, yellow, and hard to come by. Not to mention >that the power supplies and floppy drives are 20+ years old.

I am sure you can paint the case.  I think he's offering alternative boot device or you can always get a floppy simulator (to save on power as well).

[amigaksi]

>Granted..I will give you the Hobby thing..but spending thousands, upon thousands of dollars to develope an "improved" classic motherboard goes way beyond the "hobby" level if you ask me. While its cool and nice to see
seems a bit of a waste(in my opinion)..Don't get me wrong if this new A1000 board is avail. for sale I might consider buying one, if nothing else to support the Amiga.

You could make the same argument against the Mac.  Why people spend thousands of dollars on a Mac (and it's add-ons) when they can get a PC which is cheaper and faster and has more standardized hardware and more software than a Mac.  I just picked up three for free that someone was about to toss into the trash (2 are 1Ghz+).  I am glad you stated it's just your opinion, but why would you support the Amiga if you think it's a waste of time?  Also "hobby" is not just one reason-- there are many different types of hobbies.  And there are also other reasons to use an Amiga besides being a hobby.  I prefer computers that have standardized hardware doing more things rather than software, but Amiga is no longer produced so you can expect prices to be higher to rebuild individually.

[amigaksi]

>The Mac thing you wrote makes absolutley no sense.. Macs are still being produced in mass..and much better than a PC or Windoze will ever be, face it.
>Sure you can get a PC cheaper, faster..but the OS is DOG WASTE so whats the point? Heck..port the Amiga OS to run on an Intel machine and I will buy one.

Just insulting an OS does not constitute a good argument.  The point I guess you missed is: Like on the Amiga, the OS routines can be called along with directly using standardized hardware registers, similarly on a PC you can use the OS or bypass it and directly write code that uses the hardware (which is more standardized than a Mac).  I guess an example may help-- suppose you wanted to reboot the computer when a person presses the joystick button.  You can take a PC and code the following:

In AL,201h
Test AL,16
Jnz NoBoot
Mov AL,FE
Out 64h,AL
NoBoot:
 
Or you can find the equivalent API calls and/or BIOS calls and do the same.

>And for another thing..I did not bring up the "hobby" thing(mdivancic did above)
>Why are you glad that I stated "in my opinion"?

Because it's NOT a waste of time to many people and that's a fact.  I use the Amiga for games, writing/testing external device control stuff, and used to use it for genlock video titling.

>Please list the pupose of the MiniMig, and this new A1000 board? and dont say nostalgia..cuz I get that part..Because its a HOBBY..for those who are developing these boards(just a guess). Uh..I paid$3,300 for my Mac not $10,000 on developeing A1000 replacement MB..a huge difference.

I guess someone more familiar with the manufacturing of these can give you a better cost analysis.

>My point is that these talented people, and there are more of them Im sure should really come together on a common project..say like getting the current Amiga OS..3.5, 3.9 and 4.0 running on current(new) hardware. Such as Mac or Intel...mmmm.....

Which OS does the Amiga Zany Golf run on?  And what about that pac-man game that eats the workbench screen before it starts?  And what about that game that scrolls the entire display like a wallpaper (as if the OS did not exist)?

>I know the truth hurts..but thats one of the big problems with this Amiga community..its divided

Truth does not hurt if you already live in it. Everyone is an individual and has his desires and that applies to all communities although if the desires are similar it makes for a better more harmonious community.