Starting an unofficial Classic AmigaOS 4 FAQ

[A4000_Mad]

pjhutch wrote:
I am thinking of starting an unofficial AmigaOS 4 for Classics FAQ on my website.

If you have any ideas or Q&A entries you have, can you reply here so I add them to the web site.

The AmigaOS 3.9 FAQ can be found here:
http://www.gregdonner.org/os39faq/os39faq.html

My website is:
http://www.pcguru.plus.com

Great idea mate. I think both of your links are very useful 8-)



OS4 question:-

How do I get my ToolsDaemon to work in OS4?

(I've put the usual files from my OS3.9 system into S, L, Prefs and WBStartup but OS4 just hangs when I attempt to use  it)


:pint:

[A4000_Mad]

Methuselas wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't TD *ADDED* to OS4?

I am unable to find it in my OS4 installation mate.

pjhutch wrote:
Has any one got a directory listing of what is on the CD?

Here's a grab of DirectoryOpus4 (OS4 version :-D) showing the contents of the OS4 CD. No sign of ToolsDaemon anywhere in there....



Just to clarify exactly what I am looking for, this screengrab shows the 4 components of the ToolsDaemon that has worked brilliantly in OS3.9....



The original ToolsDaemon gave one extra menu called 'Utils'. By some fluke I was able to add more titles which went right across the top of the Workbench screen. Hence, I could launch many more progs and utils without even having to open up a partition.

Here is one of my 'ToolsDaemon.menu' files:-

TITLE Utils
    ITEM DirectoryOpus
    (WB) "Work:Dopus/DirectoryOpus" []
    ITEM HiFi
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Utilities/Amplifier/Amplifier" []
    ITEM ADF-Blitzer
    (WB) "Work:Tools/ADF-Blitzer/ADF-Blitzer" []
    ITEM Wordworth4SE
    (WB) "Work:Productivity/Textprocessing/Wordworth" []
    ITEM PPaint
    (WB) "Work:Productivity/Graphics/PPaint" []
    ITEM PlayCD
    (WB) "Work:IDEfix97/PlayCD/PlayCD" []
    ITEM PlayCD-OS3.9
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Utilities/PlayCD" []
    ITEM Super-Duper
    (WB) "Work:Tools/Super/Super" []
    ITEM CyberGrab
    (WB) "Work:CyberGrab/CyberGrab" []
    ITEM TextEngine
    (WB) "Work:Tools/TextEngine/TextEngine" []
    ITEM Quarterback Tools
    (WB) "Work:Tools/QB_Tools/Quarterback Tools" []
    ITEM VidiAmiga12
    (WB) "Work:Tools/VidiAmiga12/VidiAmiga12" []
    ITEM IconCopy
    (WB) "Work:Tools/IconCopy/IconCopy" []
    ITEM Doubler
    (WB) "Work:Tools/Copy/Doubler" []
    ITEM Xcopy
    (WB) "Work:Tools/Copy/XcopyPro94" []
    ITEM ABackup
    (WB) "Work:Tools/ABackup/ABackupEnglish" []
    ITEM PC Disk
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Storage/DOSDrivers/PC0" []
    ITEM RAD Disk
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Storage/DOSDrivers/RAD" []
    ITEM Packmaster
    (WB) "Work:Packmaster" []
    ITEM HDToolBox
    (WB) "Work:HDToolBox" []
    ITEM Workbench
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Prefs/Workbench" []
    ITEM PhotoAlbum
    (WB) "Work:PhotoAlbum/PhotoAlbum" []
    ITEM MD51
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Devs/DOSDrivers/DB-store/MD51" []
    ITEM WhichAmiga
    (WB) "Work:WhichAmiga/WhichAmiga" []
    ITEM SysInfo
    (WB) "Work:sysinfo/SysInfo" []
    ITEM FindDevice
    (WB) "Work:IDEfix97/FindDevice" []
    ITEM ProGRAB24
    (WB) "Work:ProGRAB24/ProGRAB24" []
    ITEM ScreenMode
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Prefs/ScreenMode" []
    ITEM IoTools
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Tools/IoTools" []
    ITEM Eject
    (WB) "Work:IDEfix97/Eject" []
    ITEM Collector
    (WB) "Work:Collector3.5/Collector" []
    ITEM Thumb
    (WB) "Work:PicShow/Thumb" []
    ITEM Changer
    (WB) "Ram Disk:Changer" []
    ITEM WBPattern
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Prefs/WBPattern" []
    ITEM Shell
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:System/Shell" []
TITLE Internet
    ITEM Miami
    (WB) "Work:Internet/Miami/Miami" []
    ITEM YAM
    (WB) "Work:Internet/E-Mail/YAM" []
    ITEM Voyager
    (WB) "Work:Internet/WWW/Voyager/V" []
    ITEM AWeb
    (WB) "Workbench3.9:Internet/AWeb3SE/AWeb-II" []
END

EDIT - ToolsDaemon.menu list shortened as it was so looooooooooong!


Thanks in advance for your help :pint:

[A4000_Mad]

Hmmm..... I just remembered how I got ToolsDaemon to work after I upgraded form OS3.5 to OS3.9. I had to hold down the right mouse button and select 'Backdrop' from the heading 'Workbench' at the top left of the screen. After which ToolsDaemon would work ok. I just did the same for OS4 and ToolsDaemon worked on that too :-)

(not the ideal solution though :inquisitive:)

Back then I eventually managed to get a patch for ToolsDaemon in OS3.9, so now I just need one for OS4 (or an OS4 specific version of  ToolsDaemon)


@  SCabit

Would you have a link to version 2.1b please as I can't see it here:-

http://aminet.net/search?name=toolsdaemon

[A4000_Mad]

Methuselas wrote:
You can use a trick menu editor that was, IMO way nicer than the original.

Do you mean like being able to right click anywhere on the screen to get a menu? You can do this in OS4 but with ToolsDaemon installed as well you have access to all those menus too.


@ AMC258

Thanks mate, but that link goes to 'ToolsDaemon21a.lha'. Hope you get your OS4 soon if you haven't already got it.

[A4000_Mad]

Framiga wrote:
apply this patch

http://aminet.net/util/boot/ToolsDaemon22.lha

to the 2.1a and it should work

That has fixed it thank you very much Famiga :banana:

I did think about doing that this morning, but then I thought "Naaaa!"

Cheers for the nudge :pint:

[A4000_Mad]

EDIT - reposted question elsewhere :-D

If you have any ideas or Q&A entries you have, can you reply here so I add them to the web site.

Q. Does your OS4 boot partition need to be within the first 4GB of the hard drive.

A. Yes

[A4000_Mad]

Oh, ok thanks TetiSoft,

I learn it from a book :-D

AmigaOS4 Quickstart Guide wrote:

You should use a completely blank, freshly formatted partition, and it must be within the first four gigabytes of the drive (otherwise the ROM SCSI device may not find it). It must use a file system that allows long file names.

8-) Merry Xmas :pint:

[A4000_Mad]

Q. Does 'PicShow' with 'Thumb' work in OS4?

A. No



Q. Does 'PhotoAlbum' with 'CyberShow' work in OS4?



A. Yes :-)

[A4000_Mad]

Thanks number6,

In your experience with OS4, can you do anything to get a prog to work after receiving a report like this for PicShow?



Or this for Thumb?

[A4000_Mad]

That will be very helpful thanks #6 :-)

Can you just confirm that a report from the Grim Reaper does not mean it's time to give up as far as getting something to work in OS4 is concerned?



I believe it does for WHDLoad above though?

Oh! When I first used the ToolsPrefs of ToolsDaemon I was simply told that 'reqtools.library' was required and didn't get a nasty report from the Grim Reaper. I put the library into OS4:Libs and away it went :-)


@ Cass

Oops! Just noticed the part of your post addressed to me (prehaps you added it later ;-)). Sorry, but I haven't got as far as checking out your promble yet.