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PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« on: January 21, 2004, 12:10:41 PM »
is that a fact? , i have now heard two people who
say this , connecting the bppc simply makes the computer crash ALL the time , black screens / gfx trash and 99% of all sw (ppc) doesnt work etc,
problems turning em on etc.

revision on the motherboards is 1d1.

i have an 1.4.d (older motherboard) , please help here as i need 1 new motherboard for myself + 1 more for a friend (who has a escom 1d1 obviously)

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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2004, 12:34:05 PM »
yep escom used 1.d.1 (1992) , my 1.4.d is from 1993 and works fine..

2 people here has 1.d.1 (escom) and both report huge probs.
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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2004, 12:36:10 PM »
here is a picture of the PATCH on the escom mobo

http://www.amiga-hardware.com/a1200mb1d1.jpg

weird stuff if u ask me, i belived escom was the latest rev..

i need info , all i can find..
so i can atleast tell my friend to see if he can make such a patch , if not i then need 2 new motherboards (mine is nearly dead allready)

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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2004, 12:44:30 PM »
well i sent a idefix to this guy to see if it help (as he now use a non buffered one) , but
yesterday he unplugged the hdd and it still crashed in early boot menu etc , gfx bugs and trash etc and very unstable.

so i doubt adding the idefix will help at all.

and yes we are 100% sure that the software and hardware are 100% installed.



and the other user report same problems!

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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2004, 12:47:05 PM »
forgot to say , it was a clean system ..

bppc + bvision ONLY and an ide adapter (the ide adapter was removed to test, but still SAME!)

also the bvision was removed ,still SAME.

tried with a blizzard 060 and all was OK!.

the bppc works FINE (no probs what so ever in 1.4.d .)

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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2004, 12:49:52 PM »
calen: if 1.d1 is so top dog? why does it need the WIRE FIX ? and why is it from 92 and not 93 ? :) , other users who has this (68k only) had to deliver it to repair shops to get the fix added!

i am rather upset atm ;( , as my last resort was infact to buy a new MAGIC PACK and right now i am glad i didnt!

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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #6 on: January 21, 2004, 12:52:54 PM »
btw , if this is the reason why everyone said their ppc amigas was unstable and crap, well then it all start to make sense now.

sorry for the rant but i am desperate for info + i need 2 motherboards that is KNOWN to work on bppc without crashing every now and then (mine can be online for days with no probs and thats even with a broken ciaa)

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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2004, 12:56:32 PM »
calen:thanks for the eyetech info but he doesnt speak english so i need to call for him then , and yuck i live in norway, but yes if thats the last option then i will.

anyway my friend has a 240watt psu (normal pc AT/AT psu powering the motherboard) and hmm doesnt a normal 060 blizzard (68k only) draw more than a ppc 040 with bvision? , also his 68k soultion was zorro 2 card (cv643d and microtek zorro board for a1200) , hence if this is a power prob then its really weird...

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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #8 on: January 21, 2004, 01:01:47 PM »
confirmed from the OTHER amiga escom mobo owner aswell now , he also powered it with a big psu , still same probs , he now use 1.4.d and none of them problems show up..

(though its abit buggy on 1.4.d on his setup but nothing compared to the escom mobo)

there... that out of the picture :)  i hope

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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #9 on: January 21, 2004, 01:04:58 PM »
utri007: can u explain abit further please? ,
if i buy a newmagic pack now , what revision should it be? and will that WORK with bppc ?

also why doesnt 1.d.1 work with bppc? , they even have the wire fix!..

thanx, please help!
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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #10 on: January 21, 2004, 01:08:00 PM »
problem is customs here, buy a dirt cheap a1200 fro uk or germany and it will probably cost more than a brand new one due to customs here in norway.


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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #11 on: January 21, 2004, 01:13:53 PM »
anyone have a full list of all revisions made of the a1200 ? , and years they was made?

and maybe most of all , the patches they need (if any)

a list over all patches would have been very nice right now.
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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2004, 01:27:02 PM »
calen: thanx but no info about ppc , really weird this...

there must be others who had problems for sure, but if that made them leave amiga etc, well i doubt they will answer here..

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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2004, 01:43:22 PM »
can anyone confirm that the cable on the picture of themotherboard ( http://www.amiga-hardware.com/a1200mb1d1.jpg ) is the TIMER FIX ?

also does anyone have the documentation for it? (as i heard just a few mins ago that supposedly its more than just a cable u need to add)

anyway both motherboards mentioned earlier (escom) has this cable allready , so big question is , is it the TIMERFIX ? or not?

might solve all of this :)

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Re: PPC cards doesnt work on Escom A1200 motherboards ?
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2004, 01:56:59 PM »
ryu: thank you for telling that about the floppy connector, gonna try that.

but now , anyone can tell me about the timer fix? , where and why and how? .

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