Damn kids these days...

[ltstanfo]

mdma wrote:
In the absence of KennyR, I'll have to say it.

IF PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE ACCESS TO GUNS, THEN THIS COULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED!

I completely agree that this is a tragedy and the loss of life is horrible.  Pending the facts of the case, I will not comment with regards to the access to guns issue but my beliefs on gun ownership are well known on this website...

Here we go again (maybe)...

 :roll:

Ltstanfo

[ltstanfo]

metalman wrote:

  Capt. Dewayne Dow of the tribal police told a group of parents, teachers and staff at a three-hour school board meeting that authorities believe as many as 20 students were involved.

One law enforcement official said the FBI believes that as many as four students -- including gunman Jeff Weise and Louis Jourdain, a classmate arrested Sunday -- were directly involved in planning an attack on Red Lake High School, and well over a dozen others may have heard about the plot.

Since the facts of this case are becomming known, I would like to add my "2 cents"...

The link to the article above points out that there was a far deeper problem then someone using a firearm in a crime.  The gun was the tool that was used for this horror but as others have pointed out, if not a gun, something else could / would have been used.  IIRC the Columbine crime also had pipe bombs (there were some 30 bombs in all..see bottom of this post for link.)  What concerns me in this current case is that several people apparently knew what was going to happen and no one thought to speak out?

As for the "easy access" to the weapon used in this case, well, if you kill the adults who owns the firearm(s) (in this case the grandfather and grandmother) then you have all the time you need to get the gun from the house, safe, car, etc... before running off to school to continue the violence.  The weapon(s) were not owned by the killer.  He had to kill someone to get them.

Regards,
ltstanfo

Columbine link:
http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/littleton/bibli_8.html?sect=3