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Why accelerate an Amiga?
« on: March 14, 2007, 03:11:13 PM »
This is a funny question coming from someone who overclocks the hell out of PCs, but I'm wondering what you guys use the accellerated Amiga for?

Do games run correctly, or do you run into problems? I've seen a lot about compatibilty issues, so I was just wondering.

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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2007, 01:05:05 PM »
I think I fall into that category of "stuck in 1991" :lol:

My A1000 is very nice. I've installed the Rejuvinator, it's got a 2MB Agnus, Super Denise, Kickstart 2.05 or 3.1 onboard, or 1.3 through a floppy, and an extra 1.5MB inside. Outside I have a Dataflyer with a 540MB drive and 1.3, 2.04, and 3.1 each bootable in a different partition.

I have sitting unused a CSA Derringer 50 with 32MB ram, but I'm not sure if I should use it or not. I tried once, but I think I ran into compatibility issues with games, so I went back to the 68020 (no speed increase really). This was 10 years ago, and I didn't know much about Amigas, so I might not have installed the 68030 libraries at the time, or known of WHDload.

I think I might give the Derringer one more try, but my only use of the Amiga is mainly Deluxe Galaga, so I'm just not sure if it's worth it because the system works great as-is.

For any high-powered computing task and all day-to-day stuff I would use my dually PCs. If the Amiga was my only computer, I could see that it would be a great idea to upgrade it.
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2007, 05:15:35 PM »
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Karlos wrote:
In response to the original poster, I'd just say... why not?


Because I could sell the CSA Derringer 50 for $$$ if it isn't going to do me any good. If I'm not doing anything that requires a faster CPU (and I haven't .... yet) I should probably just sell it.
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2007, 04:20:50 PM »
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Ratte wrote:
@Don:
Are you FastRob from A1k?

If not ... I know 2 other people in the world with rejuvenator-boards.

 :-D


Sorry, not me.
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2007, 04:36:32 PM »
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Minuous wrote:
It's a silly question. Why would you accelerate any computer? To make it faster. So that applications, emulators etc. run faster and more smoothly.

It's like saying "Why accelerate an IBM-PC" or "Why accelerate a Macintosh".


Ok, here is a less silly question. "Why accelerate an Amiga if you aren't running any software that will take advantage of it, and you could use the money for something else?"

My question was directed to what people are using the accelleration for, and to determine if I will ever need it. I don't render, I don't compile, it seems stupid to run a degrader just to get games to be compatible. I wanted to determine if there is any justification for speeding up my Amiga, and for what I do with it, I don't think so.

It's not like trying to run Oblivion on a PC, where I need to splurge for a $250 video card and need a 3Ghz processor. As I said in a pervious post, I'm running stuff from the 1990's, like Deluxe Galaga.
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2007, 12:44:19 PM »
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Daniele wrote:
Why do people put protoxide to boost their car?
Bcoz they fly,bcoz it's fun,bcoz it's passion!


WRONG! They do it because it makes the car faster which does something useful (get from point a to point b faster or lightens the wallet from speeding tickets).

If I speed up my Amiga and I have to "unspeed" it everytime I want to play a game, that seems like a waste of $$$$.

I already have the Accelerator (a CSA Derringer 50 w/ 32MB RAM), I'm just trying to decide if it will be of any use to me.
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2007, 12:47:22 PM »
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coldfish wrote:
It's very much a case of deminishing returns with the Amiga, the more you upgrade, the less compatible with the majority of (A500-games) software you become.

Why put an FPU in an Amiga, is another "funny" question?  

:-P


Exactly.

I'm just trying to figure out if there is any software that I might want to use someday that could take advantage of the accelerator.
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2007, 06:11:35 PM »
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krize wrote:
What game are you experiencing this with ? Whdload is really cool, I use it for years (on 060/040)..

It really is cool software, making it compatible, and quittable (very important).


I bought the CSA Derringer 50 in 1997. I plugged it into the A1000, Deluxe Galaga had issues (the main reason for having the Amiga), and so I pulled it out.

I didn't know of Whdload at the time. I don't even know if I copied the 68030 libraries into the proper place (I'm not the most knowledgable Amigan, maybe 3 months of serious use on the thing). I'd have to give the Derringer another try with this Whdload software.

Why do they call it Whdload BTW, and where can I find out more about this?
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Re: Why accelerate an Amiga?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2007, 06:15:03 PM »
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guru-666 wrote:
not all of us play games.  I do 3d and video work with my amigas.  I need at least a 060 cpu otherwise the thing is just flat out to slow.
nothing wrogn with a standard amiga for gaming.
in the ned it's exactly the same reason you want to speed you your PeeCee, with computers faster is usualy better.



Those are very good reasons to speed up an Amiga.

But I'm more of a PeeCee guy, my #1 machine is a dual Xeon 2.8Ghz system with 15K SCSI drives. And even this system is too slow because I have an ancient ATI 8500 video card. I need to spend $250 to get a high end x1950 just to play current games. I'm pretty sure I could buy an A1200 for the price of a PeeCee video card.
Amiga 1000, Saphire 68020/68881, Inboard 1000 1.5MB, upgraded daughter boards to A500/A2000 specs, upgraded chip sets (sorry, it was some time ago) Dataflyer with a Quantum 540MB drive.