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Re: Replacing battery with Lithium Ion
« on: March 08, 2009, 11:07:44 PM »
That auction is wrong, that is a lithium battery, not lithium ion.

I feel I should clarify lest someone tthink it is a good idea to use a rechargeable LiIon cell. It would be hazardous to install a rechargeable lithium ion battery and try to trickle charge it. LiIon cells are -very- picky about the rate of charge. They may simply die quickly, or burn and destroy your MB.

What he is -really- selling is a lithium button cell with a holder and a diode in series so current can only flow out, not in.

I "turbocharged" several Amigas by installing AAA battery holders on the case with long wires to the MB. I used three-battery holders with a silicon diode, 4.5V=0.7V=3.8V, close enough to the 3.6V NiCd cells it is meant for. And I put a sticker in there specifying -only- alkaline cells and gave the owners instructions to replace the batteries every two years. I also put a 470uF 6V capacitor in parallel with the batteries to give a few minutes to change the batteries.

I'd also converted some using carbon-layer capacitors, but longer initial charging time was a complication. Now I think I'd use polyacine capacitors. No leakage ever, much longer life, no problem with charging.
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Re: Replacing battery with Lithium Ion
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2009, 08:17:19 PM »
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motrucker wrote:
There are various way to go about this. Cordless phone battery packs (many are the correct voltage - pick one that is)


Make sure you get a -small- cordless phone battery pack. The
Amiga MB is only giving it a small trickle charge. I found that with 120mAhr 3.6V three cell NiCd packs, you'd better pre-charge them before connecting, and the stock trickle charge wasn't always enough to compensate for self-discharge.

That's why I just switched to AAA alkaline and a diode. DO NOT USE "HEAVY DUTY" OR ZINC BATTERIES. "Heavy duty" are just a fancier Zinc battery. Carbon-zinc batteries can sit in a drawer for a -long- time, but the first time they are used they start breaking down and will eventually leak all over.

Alkalines very rarely leak, and it doesn't spread.
Steve Greenfield
Owner of Polymorph Digital Photography
President of UPCHUG Commodore Amiga Club