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@ The DaddyAs I keep saying, and as CommodoreJohn says, leave the drives out. We can install our own if we need them.If you put them in then you open up a can of worms with people complaining about type/style/colour/brand/etc plus it will jack the price up.Some people won't want an optical drive at all. It would be no use to me with an FPGA Arcade. If I want one later it will probably connect to teh daughterboard so I'll need to see what connections are needed. Might even use an external.Keep it simple. The less options and less parts the better.