Amiga Auction List Posted

[Waccoon]

They're auctioning HOW many 21" monitors?!

"We have tangiable evidence that this [Bankruptcy of Amiga] will not happen any time soon"...

Do people feel the sudden urge to laugh or cry?   ;-)

[Waccoon]

Actually it was Ben Hermans on ANN.

Either that, or his stunt double.   :-)

[Waccoon]

From Fleecy's response:  "This amounts to some three year old wall dividers, desks, chairs, lamps, one or two old printers, some filing cabinets etc."

Not to mention twenty 21" monitors, 30+ desktop computers, etc.

That's a lot of stuff to leave behind!  I guess they think becuase they haven't been in the office for a while, they can skip rent?

Honesty, I don't know why I follow this crap.  I must admit, it's pretty damn funny, though.

Executive update, anyone?  Or is this indeed a private party?  ;-)

[Waccoon]

HMetal:  Amiga has plenty to do with AmigaOS 4.0 today, even though none of our guys are doing the actual coding. Check your facts instead of relying on old information.

What facts?  Where's the new information (besides the auction!!!)

Amiga, understandably, is saying nothing about their financial situation, because they simply do not have to.  The only fact is, they don't have to do anything.  And they've done a marvelous job.  What engineering has Amiga put into the AmigaOne?  Nothing notable.  They didn't even add a PCI card with a legacy floppy controller (in leiu of the A1200 connector that never made the cut).  They did promise custom firmware.  Who did the firmware?  Hyperion, starting with another firmware package.  What has Amiga done for OS4?  Give the reigns to Hyperion.

Given that the last executive update has been... a long, long time ago, the only fact I can gather is that Amiga Inc. started the AmigaOne project and gave their OS3.1 IP to Hyperion.

Wow.  That's a lot of progress after 3 years!

HMetal:  Hyperion is doing a terrific job with AmigaOS 4.0. However, Amiga has a lot to do with AmigaOS 4.0 and beyond. Most of it is behind the scenes, but that's okay.. you are allowed to have an opinion, even if it is wrong.

Way, way behind the scenes?  Amiga Inc. is under no obligation to tell the world what they are doing and how they are doing it...

...unless they actually expect us to pay for it!

[Waccoon]

Wayne:  I'm sorry. "You can't know the truth because you're not on some restricted list" is a bullshit excuse. Having to create secretive restrictive lists just to promote your own propoganda and call it truth is bullshit.

THAT is my biggest problem with Amiga Inc.

Anyone notice that the NDA on www.amigadev.net is dated to 2001?  How are you supposed to apply for dev status if they can't even keep their legal documents up to date?  Or are NDA's part of the secret list, too?

[Waccoon]

I just can't quite imagine why Amiga Inc would put 35 chairs, computers and 17/21 inch monitors in a 15 (6-8 times 2 cubicles plus 3 offices) people environment. The FACT is that SOME items in the list are NOT from Amiga Inc's office, there's no conspiracy theory about it (other than that "oooh, they had SO much equipment? no wonder they didn't have money".)

You completely misread the quote from the auction site.  The full quote is:

The following items were identified by Amiga employees as being vendor owned and wereonly used as "loaners". Some items on the main equipment list have been included in the sale from other parties.

So, the reason they clarify that these items are from 3rd parties is because they were loaned to Amiga, and had to be returned.  The auction site says NOTHING about these items NOT being in Amiga's office.  Please read the links before making up facts?  Good advice!!!

I don't follow this stuff religiously, but I do recall that they used to be in bigger offices, and then moved into smaller offices later on (about the time their phone numbers were disconnected and all that).  My guess is that they just had the stuff piled up in the corner.  It's not like they had enough staff to use it all.   :-)

The amount of furniture matches the amount of computers.  That says a lot.  There's 30-or-so comptuers up for auction, and some servers.  Amiga claimed to have 30-or-so employees at one time.  Big whoop.

The auction includes a refrigerator.  Since when does a fridge become obsolete?

Seriously, I wouldn't bother to verify what's exactly part of the auction.  This is already rediculous as it is.  All I know is, there's an auction going on, it's happening because Amiga Inc. is in default of rent payment, and Amiga is trying to keep quiet about it.  That tells me they are in deep doo-doo.  Is this *really* worth debating?

Please, how about debating that lovely interview with Matt about GUI design?  GUI's are my forte, and I'd like to talk about that some more.  Let this topic die!