Dave Haynie (lead engineer of C= Amiga) opinion on Amiga Successors

[Waccoon]

Oliver:  If an OS seriously outperforms others on the same architecture, with a good set of features, it could really generate interest.

Performance takes experience.

Also, speed shouldn't be confused with performance.  What really matters is that it meets the needs of the customers.

What do Amigans want?  An OS that runs in 1MB of memory while every PC has 256MB minimum.  Does that make sense?

Start loading some *real* software on OS4, and watch the system bog down in a hurry.  Start trying to get OS4 to do things like Windows, and watch the bloat pile up in a hurry.

God, I am so mad QNX was turned down.  At least that was a *real* OS, made by people who have been doing it for years, and know how to keep bloat under control.

Boing:  ...which would make it just a PC with AmigaOS, Nothing more, nothing less.

PC hardware today is nothing like PC hardware when the Amiga was in its prime.

Amiga Custom Chip = GPU

C'mon.  Even game consoles are based on PC hardware these days, albiet with all the useful, high-level stuff stripped out.

T_Bone:  THE PPC AMIGAOS DOES NOT SUPPORT ALL PPC HARDWARE EITHER...

Thank you.  People just can't get it into their heads that an x86 OS is not legally required to support 50 different chipsets dating back to 1990.

PICK ONE NOW!  Pick another in two years!  There's plenty of them!

Sheesh.  People don't know what they want.  A realistic development philosophy and new interface guidelines whould be nice.

THEY PICKED WHAT THEY WANTED AND SUPPORTED A SUBSET. Why, oh why, oh WHY would this be any different than AmigaOS on x86?

Because x86 = Windows.  Windows is evil, therefore, x86 is evil.  EVIL I SAY!

So evil, Macs will be using it, soon.

Unfortunately, the PC industry as we know it is dying, and Amiga is convinced that they have to move to PDAs and cell phones to survive.  Just more gadgets, really.  No "Amiga" in sight.  Just "content delivery," as opposed to "having fun making your own content."

[Waccoon]

A3KOne:  One of the things that Hyperion supposedly has done is to rewrite the OS into a language (c?) that is easily portable to other architectures.

I'm not too sure about that.  I have a feeling OS4 is just a bit too PPC friendly, and Hyperion will jump off a cliff to support this one CPU over all others.

Haven't they, already?

Politics ruins everything.

One thing I have learned about the Amiga community, it is never too late. I would have thought you all would have gone away 5 years ago.

I think it's too late for an NG platform without starting all over again.  The Teron really is a bare system, so it's pretty much a PPC and nothing else.  There's not much that can be done from the hardware side of things.  As for software... hello?  How about a nice, modern OS with a new Workbench?  Yeah, I've got your "multiplatform" right here.

I mean, so long as the file system doesn't resemble UNIX.  "Send it to /bin" is not my idea of a well-organized system.  MacOS X  and Be have failed to impress me in this respect.  The low-level interfaces are still obviously just UNIX clones.  We should be going beyond that, like, using good old Volumes again, instead of mount points.