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Offline Waccoon

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Re: Windows Vista: Microsoft's Terminator
« on: July 23, 2005, 08:57:09 AM »
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It's about time they slowed down their releases - look at the confusion and disgust at Windows ME!

And to think, Apple made a big deal out of the fact they release a "new" version of MacOS X every year (and make you pay for updates), while XP is just XP year after year and all updates are free.  :-D

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Why don't they have one reliable bit of software that can handle home and network environments!?

Windows networking is the worst I have ever seen.  It's virutally impossible to set up properly and the new XP networking "wizards" are a hell of a lot more confusing than the old control panels in Win2K.  This is my biggest beef with Windows, at least from a non-programmer's viewpoint.

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I still can't believe Apple are ditching PowerPC for Pentiums... just when things were looking up and Microsoft starts using Mac development kits for XBox-360... Apple goes and starts using Intel chips!

Idiots!

What's the big deal?  It's still a Mac.

Besides, Apple didn't have much choice.  I'll leave it to some rare, non-prejudiced Mac expert to dish out the details.

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I get the feeling my Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz with 1GB RAM and 160GB HDD won't be enough for it; in the same way people laughably install XP on Pentium IIs.

With the eye candy turned off, XP on a Celeron 400 isn't really that bad.

Now, Mandrake Linux or WinME on said hardware is an entirely different story!  :-)
 

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Re: Windows Vista: Microsoft's Terminator
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2005, 05:25:50 AM »
@bloodline:  Sweet.  :-)

PowerPC *is* a good architecture, but not as good as fanatics want us to believe.  They also do NOT run cool when pressed into serious desktop usage.  I still remember the 200Mhz G3 used in the PowerMac Tower at work.  It had a heatsink larger than a stock P4 with a 120mm case fan blowing down on it -- and it still got frickin' hot.

Still, I'm not falling for Apple's new "units of performance" catch phrase.  More fake-world benchmark B.S. -- just like Sony's "twice the performance of XBox 360" claims.

I wonder what will happen to Windows PPC, now.  :-)

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Legerdemain:   Actually I installed Windows XP on my old 350MHz Compaq Presario back in the days... optimized it a bit, ran it with only 192MB of RAM and not only did I have a startup at only 7 seconds...

NT is infinitely better than 9x.  My brother-in-law was afraid how much slower his laptop would run after I offered to upgrade it from 98 to Win2K.  Turns out, it works several times faster, now.  I'm impressed, given how much his old Dell laptop sucks to begin with.  :-D

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What about Transmeta? Wasn't it their main objective to produce an energy efficient CPU for portable devices?

Yes, but they are slow.  There's a reason it's recongnized only as an "also-ran."

Transmeta probably wasn't anticipating Intel getting their act together and starting to make their processors more efficient (thanks to AMD and the rise of portable devices).  Given Intel's manufacturing capacity, it looks like Transmeta is in serious trouble, now.

I wonder how fast a Crusoe would be running "native" code, rather than trying to emulate x86.

Intel does also have the very efficient i960, but it's not x86 compatible and I've only heard of it being used in arcade games, specifically, Sega Model 2.

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Where's SUN, DEC, Toshiba, NEC, Motorolla, Hitachi, Panasonic?

No chipsets for their CPUs.  Those guys make workhorses for CGI renderers, heavy machinery, and network routers.  I'm actually quite surprised how quickly the whole gaming industry dumped non-PPC chips, given how console developers always custom-engineer their own chipsets (usually on the CPU die).

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As for Windows XP, what exactly can it do with 200MB+ that AmigaOS3.9 can't do with 32MB or less?

Most memory used by an OS today is for caching to speed up the system, and in this respect, XP blows away OS3.9.  Contrary to popular belief, Windows can be run in low-memory situations quite well.

It's also worth noting that if the OS doesn't suck up all the memory available, it is simply wasting memory.  My system idles at 200MB usage, but if I start loading up lots of apps, memory usage doesn't really increase that much.  Unless I'm running games, of course.  Painkiller tries to allocate more than 900 MB of memory, even though my system has 512.

Games are really stupid when it comes to memory.  They just tell the OS, "GIMME ALL YOU GOT", and the OS has to decide if the game really needs it, or whether it's just being greedy.  That's why when you quit a game, it takes a minute of hard-drive swapping to return to the desktop.  It's not Windows that's using all that memory, it's the game being a memory-hogging b*stard. :pissed: