ELBOX New Spider device

[Crackpot]

I did as you said but they are not getting online, I also using thylacine on my a4000 and a3000 I only add one card and automatickly it find hub and rest usb devices

ozkano, did you find a solution to your Spider USB problem?

I have a similar problem with my set-up. In fact, I have never had the Spider up and running all the long years since it was first bought. None of the Elbox drivers have worked with this set-up. I get the same errors as you.

It's been many years now, but I recall the Poseidon author, Chris Hodges, was not paid a license fee by Elbox for his efforts. Maybe he fixed Poseidon in such a way as to prevent the Spider - or some Spiders - from being recognised by Elbox drivers... I dunno...  

And yet, we keep hearing stories of people successfully running the Spider on their Mediator equipped Amigas via Poseidon. Wish I knew their secret!

The whole situation still peeves me off. Elbox should have paid Chris Hodges the royalties. He's a good programmer and Poseidon looks a damn good USB stack. So sorry I've never been able to make use of it - especially after having paid for both the Spider and Poseidon.

Hope you have better luck.

[Crackpot]

First, clear all the spider.device settings in Trident and save. Then in CLI type:

AddUSBHardware Devs:USBHardware/spider.device 2
AddUSBHardware Devs:USBHardware/spider.device 0
AddUSBHardware Devs:USBHardware/spider.device 1

What happens now?

Info leeched here: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=667249&postcount=1

Hi, Bamiga2002

This is what happens:

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07:44PM|  0-poseidon.library: New hardware DEVS:USBHardware/spider.device/2 added (PCI to USB Enhanced Host Controller).

07:44PM|  5-poseidon.library: GET_DESCRIPTOR (len failed: host error (3)

07:44PM| 20-poseidon.library: SET_ADDRESS failed: host error (3)

07:44PM| 20-poseidon.library: Device enumeration failed, sorry.

07:44PM| 20-poseidon.library: Root hub enumeration failed. Blame your hardware driver programmer.


07:44PM|  0-poseidon.library: New hardware DEVS:USBHardware/spider.device/0 added (uPD9210FGC-7EA USB Host Controller).

07:44PM|  5-poseidon.library: GET_DESCRIPTOR (len failed: host error (3)

07:44PM| 20-poseidon.library: SET_ADDRESS failed: host error (3)

07:44PM| 20-poseidon.library: Device enumeration failed, sorry.

07:44PM| 20-poseidon.library: Root hub enumeration failed. Blame your hardware driver programmer.


07:44PM|  0-poseidon.library: New hardware DEVS:USBHardware/spider.device/1 added (uPD9210FGC-7EA USB Host Controller).

07:44PM|  5-poseidon.library: GET_DESCRIPTOR (len failed: host error (3)

07:44PM| 20-poseidon.library: SET_ADDRESS failed: host error (3)

07:44PM| 20-poseidon.library: Device enumeration failed, sorry.

07:44PM| 20-poseidon.library: Root hub enumeration failed. Blame your hardware driver programmer.
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These same errors occur no matter what is done. However, everything else in Trident's message log window is reported as normal - all that stuff in Sys:classes/USB is seen and reported as functioning and ready to go.


Have tried the SpiderII card in a PC - goes fine. I had a camera and USB drive plugged into it. Nothing wrong with the card.

PCIinfo reports data for the card as normal - for all three instances of the NEC controllers.

Have tried the card in all Mediator's PC slots.

Have had things plugged into the Spider card whilst testing; and not plugged in whilst testing. Not one jot of difference either way.

Have removed and re-installed Poseidon several times - the last time with the latest version: 4.4

Have tried all versions of spider.device. Some result in the SpiderII card not being seen at all by Trident, others, like v.3.2, allow the card to be seen by Trident (all buttons 'green' and online in the 'Controller Tab', but still, never getting beyond the errors stated above.

Have 'clean-installed' the entire OS3.9 and Boing Bags, CYBPPC software, Mediator software, etc. Straight back to square one. No change. Same errors.  

The Mediator Board seems fine - the Voodoo3 card has always performed well in it.

This has me utterly stumped.

Maybe I need a gypsy to put a reverse curse on this spider card! :-)


Cheers

[Crackpot]

Secondly, Poseidon works fine with the Spider device; but if you are concerned about the way that Elbox treated Chris, then show support for him by buying a RapidRoad USB device from Jens who set up an arrangement with Chris almost 2 years before the RapidRoad came to market.

Hi Danbeaver,

Not my Poseidon; not my Spider.

Yes, I have seen the new RapidRoad card. Looks OK. In order to have USB on our Amiga 3K, I just might have to fork out the bucks for one - and an Xsurf card to attach it to.

Do you know if the Xsurf/RapidRoad combo works OK via a Mediator's ZORRO slots in an Amiga 3000?


Cheers

[Crackpot]

Perhaps it is misreading the Manufacturer's ID code wrong?

Is that the 'VendorID' from PCIinfo?

If so, here is the current PCIinfo output:

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New Shell process 7
7.System3.x:> pciinfo

Pci Device 1:
   VendorID: $10ec
   VendorName: Realtek Semiconductor Corp
   DeviceID: $8139
   DeviceName: RTL8139http://pcidatabase.com/update_device.php? _ Realtek RTL8139 Семьи PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
   ClassCode: $20000
   RevisionID: $10
   InterruptPin: 3
   SubsystemVendorID: $10ec
   SubsystemID: $8139
   IOSpace0: $40c06000 - $40c060ff
   MemSpace1: $50000000 - $500000ff
   RomSpace: $50020000 - $5003ffff

Pci Device 2:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Electronics
   DeviceID: $35
   DeviceName: udp9210 Dual OHCI controllers plus Single EHCI controller
   ClassCode: $c0310
   RevisionID: $43
   InterruptPin: 4
   SubsystemVendorID: $1033
   SubsystemID: $35
   MemSpace0: $50001000 - $50001fff

Pci Device 3:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Electronics
   DeviceID: $35
   DeviceName: udp9210 Dual OHCI controllers plus Single EHCI controller
   ClassCode: $c0310
   RevisionID: $43
   InterruptPin: 1
   SubsystemVendorID: $1033
   SubsystemID: $35
   MemSpace0: $50002000 - $50002fff

Pci Device 4:
   VendorID: $1033
   VendorName: NEC Electronics
   DeviceID: $e0
   DeviceName:          0x1033   USB 2.0 Host Controller
   ClassCode: $c0320
   RevisionID: $4
   InterruptPin: 2
   SubsystemVendorID: $ee4
   SubsystemID: $89e
   MemSpace0: $50000100 - $500001ff

Pci Device 5:
   VendorID: $121a
   VendorName: 3dfx Interactive Inc
   DeviceID: $5
   DeviceName: Voodoo3 All Voodoo3 chips, 3000
   ClassCode: $30000
   RevisionID: $1
   InterruptPin: 1
   SubsystemVendorID: $121a
   SubsystemID: $57
   MemSpace0: $52000000 - $53ffffff
   MemSpace1: $54000000 - $55ffffff
   IOSpace2: $40c06400 - $40c064ff
   RomSpace: $50010000 - $5001ffff
7.System3.x:>
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Is there anything unusual here?