News of Free 060 Like Apollo Core License

[soviet]

This will be good received in the atari side of the force. I hear some people that where looking to license the core.

Owning a vampire i don't see al that compatibility issues that where mentioned on the thread.
Games from whdload run fine and most of the amiga sofware i have installed works, nothing different from my old (sold a long time ago) amiga 4000/060 and quite faster.

Yes the fpu emulation for now (running gold 2.5) is quite slow quake crawls for example.
But there no so much stuff that need an fpu, so theres no hurry for me to see this fixed.

[soviet]

What i read on the apollo core is that the hard fpu don't fit on the vampire FPGA RTG + AGA + CPU seem to have filled up.

The full FPU will be only for the new vampire 4.

From my point of view i have the vampire 2+ i if could choose between SAGA or the hard FPU i could prefer to have the AGA support.

[soviet]

AMMX is kind of cool, you can watch movies on the amiga i have a few converted and look great.

[soviet]

I don't know much about that mmu and fpu stuff, but what i see for sure is that they are no other options for a plain Amiga 500 to get that amount of upgrades and features for the price point the vampire 2 offers.

For example when i purchased it theres no networking.

But now i got the sdnet support on the core 2.5, the module for cost 5 USD that kind of upgrades are quite nice and even unsuspected for me.

I don't have see much products that offer this kind of flexibility that you can just do a download an upgrade your hardware.

Thanks to the vampire i could get back on the Amiga, apart from using an emulator that was i was doing before.

[soviet]

I'm sure they are going to fix most of the issues, this things take time.
Waited almost a year to have the vampire on my hands after preorder.
So patience is the name of the game.

[soviet]

Could be cool if somebody can post a list of incompatible software?

From my experience i don't see any particular issue on the software i have run.

Even old games that if run out of whdload could crash on my old 68060 run nice and dandy on the vamp.

Also you don't even need the setpatches and the 68060 libs that if not installed could crash the os even before getting to the desktop.

That for me look a lot more compatible than a plain 68060.

[soviet]

Who cares what is hidden in there, if make the CPU faster bring it on.

Look at the intel management engine ?, you are running full blown minix os inside your chip set and nobody even cared or realized it. And this on "real chips" like you guys love.

[soviet]

When the trolls are going to say what is the incompatibility ?.
Because they speak and speak about it but never list what software don't run on the vamp.

[soviet]

I'm not playing the semantics game, you are playing the semantics game.

If they say compatible with no qualification of compatibility then yes you can safely expect it's 100% compatible.

They know it's not 100% compatible but are prepared to mislead, otherwise why wouldn't they just admit it? Are you saying they are too stupid to know?



I'm not entirely sure what you mean by that, Gunnar would simply just have to write the HDL to create a compatible MMU. He refuses.



I'm waiting for Gunnar to add an 040 or 060 compatible MMU and FPU. Or for someone else to do an equivalent board that supports it. Unfortunately Gunnar is doing his best to stop either of those things happening.



That isn't true at all, the only trolls are speaking in favour of Apollo.

If you're serious then lets start with an easy one, NetBSD http://wiki.netbsd.org/ports/amiga/

Then how about http://aminet.net/package/util/libs/MMULib

Quite a useful one here http://aminet.net/package/dev/debug/enforcer (Enforcer 37.73, supports 68060). Apparently 68080 is compatible with 68060 and this version of Enforcer supports 68060 so of course it will work (wrong).

I don't know if you really believe what you're saying, or whether you're just trying to be a troll yourself.

So that's it 3 programs ?
They should change it to 99.5% compatibility?