Atari ST versus Commodore Amiga in pictures

[monami]

i'm a fan of many platforms...
what sence have you to talk? talk it.

[monami]

@hammer

those are not my words they are from the online amiga history!

[monami]

i'm sure the amiga was the same. surface mounting and all...

[monami]

well i'm here again and i'll wait for the superiority of amiga to convince the world again... but i'm not convinced about the a500's absolute power in the 80's i don't remember it blowing the cobwebs away! seemed very much like everyting the st could do.

[monami]

@retro 71

being as you are a retro gamer and own all these systems and are master of them. could you offer your technical opinion of each of them interms of the market aimed at and the cost effectiveness of the hardware for the time? i'm just curious...

[monami]

thanks bloodline you proved my point! earlier in the thread you will see why i said the amiga 500 should not be compaired to the st. as it was 2 years later. the amiga 1000 is the only fair comparison. goodnight folks. :-)

[monami]

@henrycase.

no i suspected that miner was in on the atari next gen computer and tried to cut their throat. and that using a reasonable ability of phycology "mines bigger than yours." he would win with a slighter improved computer that to be honest was his only want to get up the nose of atari corp or who ever. amiga didn't seem a happy platform it was always "i've got an amiga, it's more powerful..." like i say i didn't see it. maybe my g/f should have been here. "that's lame." "thanks babe."

[monami]

i'm no troll my friend. thanks you.

"jay miner, one of the original designers for the custom chips found in the Atari 2600 and Atari 8-bit of machines, tried to convince Atari management to invest big money into creating a new chipset and console/computer idea. When his idea was rejected, Miner left Atari to form a small think tank called Hi-Toro in 1982 and set about designing this new chipset. The company which was later renamed Amiga started selling various video game controllers and games while it developed its "Lorraine" computer system."

[monami]

@henrycase. i know you all know i'm not close to 50% history of what you know. but all i can see is a guy with dollar signs in his eyes and a little more. the whole thing is a buisiness yes and i can see their are those that had a love of electronics. but how much of it is ego and self recognition? undercut backstab. i know it's a cut throat buisiness. so many didn't succeed. but i personally didn't like the amigas entrance to my world. as you say my history is different to what you consider to be true. to me it was like a sex pistols song "god save the queen." on jubilee day. even though i'm a fan i didn't like that approach. yes commodore were having to find a nitch. but even i can see that was a mistake to put up what were £1000 computers when they had home computers before. so then i saw it like oh lets get in at the low end. and undercut and cut out atari. any kind of revenge it didn't wash with me thats all. yes you give a donkey a carrot and it follows you. you promise the earth and people will beleive you. thats what i call hype. i'm sure if i had an amiga at the time i would have said... don't like the colour! but someone else would woot woot woot.

i think the a500 was meant to usurp the st. make of that what you will.

[monami]

"What made Commodore such a great success was the times they delivered to market a product that people wanted."

i bought 3 vic 20's that all went wrong and were returned to radio rental before i decided on a zx spectrum.

[monami]

is a date specified anywhere when the custom chips were made?

[monami]

hi,

i will check out the articles. thanks.

some points seem hard to grasp thats all. if the amiga was as quoted a computer that could do things a 10000 couldn't do(earlier in the thread.) why couldn't they shift it for 1000?

atari "off the shelf chips"? they were industry standard. yam sound chip? used in their keyboards?

if the amiga was so revelutionary why did 3 companies turn them down?

my original point was amiga was failing as they entered the market. their price point was incorrect and so they tried to cut in on ataris market. if their hardware was so good why wasn't the a500 sold for £500 not the same price as atari? surely they would have been recognised for the genius they were?

[monami]

i've just found a midi interface for amiga. where can i find a legal copy of cubase? thanks.