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Several OS3.x questions, please have a look! -update
« on: March 20, 2010, 06:48:12 PM »
I've been saving up some issues Im having with OS3.9 on my setup. Not wishing to clutter this site with several small threads, Im now combining them all in this one. I hope you can help me out fixing/answering them!
 
1) Im having annoying 'black scrollbars' in file requesters, but also in certain MUI apps like IBrowse. Also, the arrow buttons beneath them just look plain ugly. I've found no way to configure them in another way. From what I recall, this was not the case with a clean install of OS3.9. Did I kill something, or do I need to install something? For example, look at this random screenshot of iGame, how can I make my scrollbars & gadgets look like this?
 
http://www.emunova.net/img/actu/6c4f580ad712e947cbfab93ee4b4c68f.png
 
2) Is there a way to make my Workbench windows (partly) transparent?
 
3) Is there a way / patch to always Show hidden icons, and 'auto cleanup' every time a window is opened?
 
4) Im trying to find out whether my IDE-Fix Express is working as it should. Sysinfo reports 6.553.600 Bytes/sec. Seems pretty normal (?). However, when I hit the Speed button again, it gives the exact half of that number. Clicking it once more, 6.553.600 is shown again. Is this normal behaviour? :|
 
5) Since Im using a IDE-Fix Express I'm running Setpatch with the SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device" argument. Whats the difference between that, and removing the 2 lines from Devs:NSDpatch.cfg? Do I need to do both?
 
6) Im using SFS on all partitions except my boot partition. This includes my OS4 partition. Does my system benefit from installing the PPC-specific version of SFS on the OS4 partition? Keep in mind I want to be able to access this partition from OS3.9 (68k), too.
 
7) When running Newicons on a pre OS3.5 installation, there was an option to put a border around the icon names. I cant find this anywhere in the Workbench prefs. Is there a way to get it back?
 
8) Im using the latest version of IBrowse (2.4) but when I start it it says: 020 version. Is there a 060 version aswell?
 
9) Im trying to set up blizkick, since there is so much in it that can improve my machine. But I cant get it to work. It says it has mapped the ROM, but exec.library remains v40.x instead of v45.x. Ive read the docs and used romupdatesplit to load the OS3.9 bb2 rom into update modules. Im trying to load those with the following line:
 
c:blizkick devs:kickstarts/kick31_os3.9.rom EXTRESBUF=80000 MODULE bppcfix fastfilesystem filesystem.resource scsi.device ram-handler console.device
 
Is this the right syntax? Can I leave out scsi.device because of my IDE-Fix? And would I benefit from SpeedyIDE?
 
Thats it for now! Help is very much appreciated!
« Last Edit: March 21, 2010, 10:37:03 AM by rvo_nl »
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Re: Several OS3.x questions, please have a look! -update
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2010, 10:35:07 AM »
1. Black scrollbars. I have registered MUI, but this doesnt concern MUI apps only. It looks like something is overriding scrollbars, even the ones from MUI. I've tried two ASL replacement tools like Matt_H suggested, but they dont make the requesters any prettier, tbh :) Im really lost for ideas, requesters and apps look so much nicer on the screenshots I've seen. Perhaps I should install AmigaSys or similar to see if there's something in it that makes it possible.
 
One more screenshot to show what I mean:

http://www.ibrowse-dev.net/screenshots/pointer.png
 
When browsing around I came across this line somewhere, however: 'AslPrefs (v44.2) in SYS:WBStartup loads your preferences', but.. it is not in my WBStartup folder! Could this be the cause? Couldnt find it on the OS3.9 cd-rom either.
 
2. Transparent windows. Okay, guess not then.
 
3. Show all files / cleaned up automatically. I know I can snapshot windows, but I want to set a default setting for all opened windows. Just like you can do with a certain *other* OS. Guess its not possible.
 
4. Sysinfo. I love Sysinfo so Im glad to hear its a common bug.

5. Leaving out scsi.device in NSDpatch.cfg. Im not entirely convinced on this. But am I right in thinking NSDpatch.cfg isnt even touched when I run setpach with the NOROMUPDATE switch (because of Blizkick) ? In that case I can let it rest.
 
6. PPC SFS. Not convinced on this either. Is there a big speed benefit when I install a PPC specific SFS? OS4 could use a bit more punch.. ;)

7. Icon text border. Unfortunately (and despite your offer, Cammy)  I do not with to use Createoutline since I dont want to patch too much into system files - even fonts. Will have a look for Font Machine though. Matt_H, sorry, but that option is not there in my Fonts prefs. Are you sure it is in yours?
 
Will try out VisualPrefs later today, sounds pretty hard to use though ;)
 
8. No 060 IBrowse, okay.
 
9. Blizkick. I've got blizkick working now, its fantastic! Thanks for your help Bamiga, Mike. One more question though: I am now using a romfile that I have saved using SAVEROM when blizkick was not running. Is this the rom I should use? Or should I point it to the AmigaOS ROM Update file instead?  Uh and also, do I need the module FastFileSystem when Im using SFS?
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Re: Several OS3.x questions, please have a look!
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2010, 03:51:51 PM »
Another update:
 
Visualprefs
 
I've fixed the issue with the scrollbars using VisualPrefs. A bit of a fiddle, but it now even looks a bit like the screenshot I gave earlier! Thanks for all your suggestions. I have two questions about Visual Prefs though:
 
- it keeps asking for AmigaOS3.5, why is this and where can I assign it to?
- in the manual it says I need the program TRAP to force ReAction to use Vprefs' template. However the site doesnt exist and aminet doesnt have it. Do I still need it? Can someone send it to me? ReAction prefs is now looking very weird.
 
Blizkick
 
Working fine, but I still wonder whether I should load the FastFileSystem module.
 
PPC version of SFS
 
I still dont know what to do with this. Anyone?
 
Icon text border
 
I played around with a few programs on Aminet, but they gave a very ugly outline around my Icon titles. I recall them looking better with just plain Newicons. When I use createoutline, the result looks just as worse and it keeps drawing a rectangle around the text. So no luck there so far.
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Re: Several OS3.x questions, please have a look!
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2010, 09:39:11 PM »
Hi Cammy, sorry but no, wasnt the case. Output from CreateOutline is very dissapointing, the standard Newicons 'icon creator' or whatever it was called did a much better job.
 
Hi Kvasir :) Thanks, will give that a try!
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Re: Several OS3.x questions, please have a look!
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2010, 09:02:28 AM »
Hey Matt_H, thanks for the very informative reply. Will have a look tonight, but it looks like I can solve 1 or 2 issues with this info, thanks a lot!
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Re: Several OS3.x questions, please have a look!
« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2010, 07:17:31 PM »
ok, scrollbars look pretty okay now, thanks to visual prefs and the screenshots from Matt_H.
 
Icon text border is still a problem though. Powericons does a great job and since I was using Ghosty already, could be an excellent program. But again the outline on the icon labels looks very jaggy and pixelated. Perhaps Im just not used to this anymore, in the days if windows cleartype. So, still not sure about this :)
 
But thanks all, for your help.
 
BTW, that default icon tip was really useful. I never thought of that before!
« Last Edit: March 23, 2010, 08:06:17 PM by rvo_nl »
Amiga 1200 (1d4) Kickstart 3.1 (40.68), Elbox Power/Winner tower (450w psu), BlizzardPPC 603e+ @240mhz & 060 @50mhz, 256MB, Bvision, IDE-fix Express, IndivisionAGA, 120GB IDE, cd, dvd, Cocolino, Micronik Keycase, PCMCIA Ethernet, Ratte monitor switcher, Prelude1200, triple boot WB3.1 / OS3.9 / OS4.1, Win95 / MacOS8.1