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Boing bag 2 - no mouse/keyboard?
« on: December 06, 2009, 03:50:44 PM »
Hi. Installed OS3.9 Boing bag 1, then Boing bag 2. Ofcourse Ive turned power off. After reboot the mouse and keyboard didnt work although the workbench seemed to be 'alive' (no lockup). In early startup they both work, ofcourse.

Perhaps I missed something: was it smart to select YES when asked to install the ROM Update for BB2?
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Re: Boing bag 2 - no mouse/keyboard?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2009, 03:57:24 PM »
Quote from: Matt_H;532828
What other hardware do you have? That'll determine whether/how you can use the ROM update.


I was hoping it would turn up in my signature, sorry:
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Re: Boing bag 2 - no mouse/keyboard?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2009, 04:12:24 PM »
I tried again and this time I was able to move the mouse for a split-second. so the system locks up. Ive renamed wbstartup to see if that helped, but it didnt.
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Re: Boing bag 2 - no mouse/keyboard?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2009, 06:26:54 PM »
no progress at all. Ive noticed after installing the Boing bags some files in devs: are added or renamed. For example, NSDPatch.cfg-BB3.9-2 etc. Do I have to rename them so they are loaded? Or are they called by their new name? Is Setpatch taking care of this?

And then there's still the question of the new ROM Update that came with BB2: is it safe to install it? Could my problems be caused by it?
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Re: Boing bag 2 - no mouse/keyboard?
« Reply #4 on: December 07, 2009, 07:39:28 PM »
thanks, but that didnt help at all. will reinstall os3.9 + boing bags and select NO when asked to use the rom update. might take a few days.
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Re: Boing bag 2 - no mouse/keyboard?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2009, 08:01:28 PM »
hi, after some fiddling I found out the problem is Iprefs. Or perhaps some library that is used by it and is updated by boing bag 2. leaving iprefs out of the startup-sequence works. replacing it with the one that came on the os3.9 cdrom did not. any other ideas?
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Re: Boing bag 2 - no mouse/keyboard?
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2009, 10:42:35 AM »
Mugo, I already deleted the ROM Update, before I found out it was Iprefs.

Matthey, pretty interesting. Will try this out tonight.
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Re: Boing bag 2 - no mouse/keyboard?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2009, 09:21:03 PM »
well, not much luck so far. os3.9 starts completely normal when I leave Iprefs out of the startup-sequence. when I start it from workbench, instant freeze of keyboard/mouse. no response when cdrom is inserted either.
 
increasing the stack didnt help. Ive checked setpatch and iprefs versions and made sure Im running the ones matthey mentioned. Ive tried applying those 'boing bag 3' patches, but I didnt find them very useful, to be honest.
 
tomorrow I will try using fastiprefs instead of iprefs. somehow I remember that was important back in the days. but I doubt it will do much, the iprefs of os3.9 is updated for a reason, I guess..
 
does anyone have some other ideas? for example, deleting the iprefs settings from env-archive?
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Re: Boing bag 2 - no mouse/keyboard?
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2009, 11:35:58 AM »
Quote from: Mugo;533260
@rvo_nl:
 Did you renamed the old Amiga ROM Update to "activate" it?
 

TBH, I dont know for sure. All I know is my system doesnt reboot anymore when started. So no ROM Update is used ATM. I will reinstall OS3.9, IDE-Fix, BB1 and BB2 tonight and after that install latest cybergraphx+rc5 patch, and latest 040/060 libs. I hope that works..
 
..what about cybergraphx and OS3.9 anyway.. any known conflicts? :|
 
Thanks for your other information, useful!
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Re: Boing bag 2 - no mouse/keyboard?
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2009, 08:45:27 AM »
Quote from: Mugo;533260
iPrefs calls a lot of other functions and programs. Can be any other 3rd party patch too.

Right you were! I reinstalled os3.9+bb1+bb2 without the rom update, worked fine. then I reinstalled it again, this time with the rom update. also worked fine. no idea what was causing the lockups, the only 2 things I had installed before were:
 
os3.9 powerpc update (warpos, right?)
cybergraphx 4
 
I also installed the proper 040/060 libs and wanted to install the latest cgx4 patch, too:
 
http://phase5.a1k.org/index.php?id=3 (rc5)
 
..but the installer kept asking for the cdrom, which is somewhere locked up in a box.. honestly!
 
1) can I install this patch by making an assign? ofcourse I tried this, but didnt work so far.
 
2) Im not sure whether I should install all the previous cgx4 patches prior to installing this rc5 update.. in other words: do I install rc5 on top of the original (unpatched) cgx4 install?
 
3) and, do I have to configure cgx4 first? For example, Ive noticed the installer looks for cvisionppc monitor driver, which is what cgx4 installs by default (the mentioned updates rename this to bvisionppc, iirc).
 
any help on this last important part of installing my classic workbench? :)
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Re: Boing bag 2 - no mouse/keyboard?
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2009, 09:17:33 PM »
questions answered in another thread.
 
google, go here: http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50690
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