Amiga OS4 on old (PPC) Macs

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Any news yet?

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Yep, the only viable solution to put OS4 in the hands of the teaming masses of Amiga users (we'll maybe not teaming masses,but...) is to have it run on PPC Mac hardware,  I just cycled out 15 PPC Macs at work, replacing them with Intels.  We''ll dump those PPC Mac cheaply.  There's at least a dozen more I'll be taking out of service this calendar year.  

There's a glut of PPC Macs on the market.  Here in Australia no one have ever been charged with running legally purchased software on non-Eula allowed equipment.  I don't think they could be charged under current Australian law.  You bought the software, you bought the hardware, it's nobodies business what you do with them.

If you can buy a highend "Amiga" (ppc mac) and os4 for less than $400 who's the loser?  Nobody, Amiga inc (KMOS) does not and never has produced hardware.  Same with Hyperion.

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We're a University, and yes we are buying intel Macs that will DUal Boot Leopard and XP.  So much software runs better on Intel Macs than PPC ones that we are trying to get rid of as many PPC Macs as possible.

We replaced my aging G5 with a dual Quad core intel.  The difference is night and day.

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Yeah, I don't get it, either Hyperion has rights to OS 4 or the don't.  If they do then why don't they produce a version that runs on Macs.  If they don't have rights then they are sunk anyway, so why wait for the court?



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As I understand it you just need to hand uboot code since the most of the old PPC Macs have radeon graphics cards...

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What complicates matters is that there are two Amiga Incs, Amino, the original post Gateway Amiga Inc and KMOS, the company that served as a shell to erase Amino's bad debts.  

Hyperion had a deal with Amino, but they've also signed things with KMOS so I'm not sure who's got what.  What I suspect is that Bill originally planned to use Hyperion to escape the debt but Hyperion wasn't cooperative so he went to KMOS, transfered the assets and scuttled the companies president.  

Sooooooo, we don't really know what the Judge will decide.  Either way we have problems, Hyperion's stand on X86 means there will be few machines that OS4 will run on, Amiga Inc/KMOS history pretty much says that there will be no machines that OS4 will run on if they win...

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Amiga Inc's website hasn't been updated since February, the only active part of the company seems to be Amiga Development Indi, which has now added Linux to it's dotNet skills.  But what exactly does Bill do all day?  Why do they even need him or anyone else in Seattle?

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Just saw the following on my favourite file sharing service site....

Does it work???

Details for Amiga OS 4.0 (w/July 2007 Updates) Install CD for Mac Mini G   
Created by krismiszcz 13 hours ago
Applications : Macintosh : English
Amiga OS 4.0 (w/July 2007 Updates) Install CD for Mac Mini G4 (Moana Loader)
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This CD will allow you to boot the Amiga OS 4.0 kernel and run the Amiga OS 4.0 installer.

The knows issues with the Moana loader are:

* Displays image that USB stack has not been loaded (USB keyboards and mice work)
* Doesn't detect the Mac Mini built-in Ethernet
* Doesn't detect the Mac Mini AirPort Extreme card
* Doesn't detect the Mac Mini Bluetooth device
* Probably a lot more I've not come across yet!

Testing has been performed with a Mac Mini G4 with the following specs:

Model Name: Mac mini
Model Identifier: PowerMac10,2
Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (1.2)
Processor Speed: 1.5 GHz
Number Of CPUs: 1
L2 Cache (per CPU): 512 KB
Memory: 1 GB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.9.4f0

This CD may/may not work on other Mac Mini G4 models.


Instructions for booting:
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1) Boot into Open Firmware (Hold down "Option" "Command" "o" "f" when powering on)
2) First time users will only need to enter the following command once:
setenv boota-device cd:
3) Begin loading the OS 4.0 kernel/kickstart by typing in the following command:
boot cd:slb_v2
4) Select either option:
"1. Amiga OS 4.x: CDROM MM_Full_silent_USB" - for Mac Mini G4 1.5GHz/64MB Radeon models
"2. Amiga OS 4.x: CDROM MM_Full_silent_USB_ATI_safe" - for all other Mac Mini G4 models
5) Press "Enter" at the "Installed mem: 1024 mega bega" prompt
6) Press "Enter" at the "About to build the copy of the OF tree; Code start at 0x01800000; press any key" prompt
7) Press "Enter" at the "All init done; about to kill OF and start ExecSG; press any key" prompt

At this point, the screen should turn black and after a few seconds, the CD drive will spin up.

Eventually you'll see an AmigaDOS window displaying the message "USB stack not running.". Oddly enough, USB keyboards and mice seem to work.

7) You'll be greeted with a "Welcome to the Amiga OS 4.0 Install CD" window, click on "Proceed"
 On the next window, select your language, country and time zone and click "Use"
9) A window will pop up and will ask how the system time should be updated. Click on "System"
10) A window will pop up with the message "Your system time has been updated". Click on "OK"
11) Shortly after, a window will appear to advise you that you must select a keyboard. Click "OK"
12) Select your keyboard and click "Use"

If the start up appears to stall between steps 10 and 11, press "Ctrl C" and you should see a "WAIT: ***Break" message appear. The installer will now continue.

Good luck!

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Size: 49.97 MB   

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So where is the hangup?  Uboot?  Hardware drivers?

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All the stuff on TPB is old and not working, has anybody gotten OS 4.1 working on a PPC Mac?