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Re: OS4 on the pegasos
« on: June 08, 2004, 12:15:05 AM »
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Re: OS4 on the pegasos
« Reply #1 on: June 08, 2004, 12:34:13 AM »
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When the hardware was being shown to them they also had a Teron (A1 is the same as this) and a G5 dual system. The Pegasos beat them all out.


So, your'e saying a single CPU G3 based machine beat a dual CPU G5 based one. At what, exactly?

Could have been a G4 :-)
Price and running Linux is my guess.
Seems like PPC-Linux on Pegasos is better supported than on A1.
http://www.pegasosworld.se/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=65
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Re: OS4 on the pegasos
« Reply #2 on: June 08, 2004, 11:22:29 AM »
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Not true. A1 is basically only sold for OS4.

Again wrong. The A1 was built to satisfy Eyetech's need for a custom system their industrial customers could not purchase from anywhere else, therefore allowing for high profit margins per unit to be maintained. They previously used old Amiga systems for this, but understandably were going to have problems as the supply slowly dwindled.

The OS4 tie-in is so that those systems can be sold to the consumer market too, with Eyetech looking for the same exclusive angle they have with their industrial niche.

Mini-ITX in the industrial market :lol:
That´s a very small marketshare. PC104 is the formfactor that rules that market even if smaller boards and those a little bit bigger like the size of a 3,5"diskdrive have taken a big share of the market.
Secondly where is Linux(or BSD) going on the A1? Nowhere.


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A1 on the other hand is badly priced for these markets and has problems just running Linux. No-one wants to adapt their kernel to run on an expensive PPC board when they can do it for half the price with no workarounds on a Peg.

Both Peg and A1 are overpriced and overhyped. One rates as distinctly mediocre hardware, while the other borders on being downright poor. In both cases the operating systems are raw and unfinished.

There are other boards for running PPCLinux and not only that you are also competing against x86 compatibles as Transmetas and Vias processors and against the ARM family.
The industrial market isn´t a safe little playground for overpriced crap anymore, that was 15 years ago.
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Re: OS4 on the pegasos
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2004, 10:37:29 PM »
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Mini-ITX in the industrial market :lol:
That´s a very small marketshare. PC104 is the formfactor that rules that market even if smaller boards and those a little bit bigger like the size of a 3,5"diskdrive have taken a big share of the market.
Secondly where is Linux(or BSD) going on the A1? Nowhere.

Just to clarify: I'm not saying Eyetech are targetting the entire industrial market with the A1. Eyetech's main income has, for many years now, come mainly from selling Amiga based systems essentially as embedded devices to a small but loyal and established set of customers. Eyetech have been looking after those customers and those customers like to stay with Eyetech. However, with no more A1200s bieng built for many years now, and old machines gradually failing, Eyetech's supply of bases for their systems must have been dwindling away, even counting the refurbs. Hence the A1: a custom board no one else is selling (as far as the Eyetech customers are concerned) and whose price cannot be compared on a straight basis with similar x86 efforts because "it's not the same".

Aside from that, I agree with what you're saying.

Now, I´m really curious about what software they run!
What is it that runs on an A1200 and a A1 but doesn´t run on UAE? :-P
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