some question about the 68k and amiga vs mac

[Dan]

NightShade737 wrote:
Motorolla went from the 68k to the G3, from the G3 to the G4 and from that to the current G5 which is using in the Apple Mac G5.

I think it was preference on the OS at the time of the Amigas, but I think AOS had more software. At least access to a lot more games.

Actually the 601 was the first PowerPC, I think it was only 66MHz, it was later followed by the 603(BlizzardPPC for A1200),604(CyberstormPPC for A4000) and later by G2,G3 and G4.
The G5 is an IBM chip.
BTW anybody remmeber the 620? and what was the name of that 800Mhz chip by a thirdpart that never saw the ligth of the day?

[Dan]

paulgerman wrote:
i have some question about the amiga hardaware ?

1) When the amiga 1000 was release in the 80 , I know that it was a super computer but at the time which machine was better or similar in hardaware ( or power ) to the amiga 1000 ?

I don´t think there was any machine with similar audio and video capabilities.

2) What happen to motorola ? why they did not contiuned with the 68k cpu , why are not today a company like intel ,amd or even ibm . Can anybody tell what happen to the 68k cpu ?

The 68k got replaced by PowerPC on the desktop and by the Coldfire(which has a partial 68k emulator integrated, search for the Amiga Coldfire project for more info)  in the more powerful embedded systems. Variants of the 68k is however still used in smaller embedded systems, I heard about somebody who found one in a washingmachine that was faster than the one in A500. My graphing calculator from Texas Instruments uses a 10Mhz 68000( with256Kb ram) for example. Also the first Dragonball processors used in the Palm pdas was somekind of 68k variant.

3) Knowing about mac , i just wander at the time that the release  a500 to the a4000 , in hardaware and os which plataform was better the mac or the amiga , i know the run same cpu at the time, but which one was better plataform ? in hardaware and software ?

When A500/A2000 was released: Amiga
When A3000 was released:they were close to equal but A3000 had better graphics for video and a lowerprice (Color Mac was expensive)
When A4000 was released: they were close to equal but A4000 had better graphics for videowork, MAC was better for DTP
When A1200 was released: A1200 had the better price, Mac Performa was more powerful, Atari Falcon had the best compromise between power/price

[Dan]

evilrich wrote:

Actually the 601 was the first PowerPC, I think it was only 66MHz

Apple used 60MHz and 80Mhz parts, AFAICR.

Then it was 60Mhz, what wasn´t the first named something like PowerMac 6000,8000 and 9000?

it was later followed by the 603(BlizzardPPC for A1200),604(CyberstormPPC for A4000) and later by G2,G3 and G4.

Acutally, the BlizzardPPC used the 603e and the CyberstormPPC used the 604e - which were 2nd generation designs. I never saw them refered to as G2, though. Th Gx naming was Apple's doing. IBM never used this naming.

What was the difference between the 603/604 and the 603e/604e?
I seem to remmeber that the 603e had some important improvments but I cant remmeber what they where(both faster and produced less heath?)
The G2 was around the time when Steve Jobs got back to Apple and killed the clones. Was there a G2 Powerbook? I don´t remmeber.

What about the fabled 615 which was supposed to be able handle the x86 instruction set?

It wasn´t let outside the lab at all. Nobody ever saw it, aside from the technicans.