New for 2008: The EU Olympic team

[Dan]

Aaargh EU-fedralists IS insane.

If we had EU-athletes we would get EU-doping for the same reason there was US/Communist-block government approved doping in the 80s!
(and probably is Chinese government approved doping now)

It´s much better the more countries there is, if Sweden gets beaten in soccer I can always cheer on Denmark or Norway and the other way around.

EU should be a trade/travel union only maybe with some environmental work, if those {bleep}heads want to live in the US why the hell don´t they move to the US???!!

[Dan]

Not remove, replace!

[Dan]

KennyR wrote:
Say the EU did want to remove national identity, what is it, exactly? Hmm?

That's right, nation doesn't exist. It's a name and a coloured piece of cloth, a concept that means absolutely nothing in praxis. Most of mankind's strife comes from the fact that it's carved up along imaginary national lines rather than cultural and ethnic ones.

And EU isn´t new imaginary lines?

If the EU want to remove something that doesn't exist, I don't care. I'd rather care about other things more important, like trade being ruled by unelected beurocrats. The UK flag looks ugly anyway.

I agree about the bureaucracy lets throw away the comission and the eu-parliament too, the minister-council is enough.

[Dan]

That´s a lot off crap, there doesn´t need to be a great  conspiracy it´s enough with some eurocrats that see the opportunity to grab more power for themselfs. If this continues over the years you get EU the same way all other empires was created, Rome, Byzantium, Germano-roman empire, the arabian empire, the emperors china, colonial UK and France during 1800s, USA, Soviet, by bureaucracy.
The one mansshows like Alexander the great, Djingis Khan and such always collapsed after the death of the leader.

But the worst part of EU is that it only tries to copy USA!
All that marketliberalism is idiotic, USA is headed the same way Soviet went. What made life so comfortable in the western europe and the neutral european countries was the balance between capitalism and socialism.
KennyR is often declaring his hatred for Thatcher, I´m surprised that he doesn´t see that EU is the same thing all over again.

Now if a new kind of european alliance was formed around such common sense as "The roads, railways and the powerlines should owned by the public, the buses, trains and powerplants by private companies" and
"If Bush want´s oil fine, let him have it, it´s not gonna last forever so it´s cheaper to move our infrastructure away from oil(which we have todo someday anyway) than involve ourself in his war." or
"Health and environmental laws in side the union should be minimum and not maximum regulations" BTW Thank you so much for the salmonella EU, we really appreciate your effort to reintroduce a disease which we almost made extinct.

[Dan]

KennyR wrote:
Say the EU did want to remove national identity, what is it, exactly? Hmm?

That's right, nation doesn't exist. It's a name and a coloured piece of cloth, a concept that means absolutely nothing in praxis. Most of mankind's strife comes from the fact that it's carved up along imaginary national lines rather than cultural and ethnic ones.

As for removing national identity isn´t public schools and health care a important part of that identity, apart which americans hasn´t got. I know I don´t want any foreigners to critize the swedish healthcare system, thats my right which thanks to the corrupt socialdemocratic government I exercise frequently.

If the EU want to remove something that doesn't exist, I don't care.

Good then you won´t care when I remove something other that doesn´t exist?
History :lol:
Let´s begin with year 0 the day the EU-constitution is accepted by the memberstates. Before this nothing existed.

I'd rather care about other things more important, like trade being ruled by unelected beurocrats. The UK flag looks ugly anyway.

Don´t think the scottish flag will be spared.
EU is nothing but an attempt to drag the citizens in the european countries away from being unionmembers, demand healthcare and schools and being aware of how democracy works in practice, dragginng them away from that towards the modern american dream(MAKE MONEY FAST).

-Stop making trouble and being expensive and go to work for a {bleep} wage at this bigcorp that bought me a new boat!
Thats what the EU says to it´s citizens.

I have actually seen swedish revolutionary communists and socialists saying that when the EU-police and military arrives they will stand united with the nationalsocalists.