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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« on: November 27, 2014, 07:52:54 AM »
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You shouldn't need any configuration, mouse should just start working when plugged in. You should be able to use both USB and standard mouse simultaneously and there isn't any need to disable either of them. In fact, if you plug several USB mice they all should work simultaneously too :) At least that's how it works with my A1200/SpiderII and MorphOS machines.

If you go to Poseidon/Trident preferences and look the devices list, can you see mouse as HID class? If you double click it, does it say it's mouse interface?

You are right. It detects mouses immediately.

Click devices and look for the second device. It should ve a HID class. If it detects it wrong, I think you can select it yourself. You can also double click the HID device and once again double click the device to configure it further. For example, I had to configure the horizontal wheel of my Logitech G7 gaming mouse because it was not detected.

I tried a usb stick and was able to copy stuff to and from it.

I also plugged a Sony Cybershot and could copy pictures back to my Amiga. Opening those pictures crash the Amiga so I think they were corrupted.
 When I connected my Samsung Galaxy S4 (it's possible to choose an older picture transfer protocol), it crashed when I was trying to list the contents using Workbench or Dopus. (on my second try it did not crash and I was able to copy one picture to my Amiga.. That picture froze multiview. On the third try it once again crashed while trying to list the contents and I couldn't list the contents again).
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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2014, 04:33:07 PM »
Can anyone who has popupmenu.library and reqattack and magic menu installed test if the menu that opens when you right click inside a requester (for example the requester that opens when you choose "about" from "Workbench" menu) gets stuck using a usb mouse connected to RR?
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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2014, 10:03:52 PM »
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I have "popupmenu.library" version 10.10.1 and MagicMenu version 2.35 installed on my system. I have no problems right-clicking on any menu items with USB mouse.  Mouse works seamlessly with any Workbench-compatible programs I've tried so far.  Obviously doesn't work with hard-coded WHDLoad games, however.  ;)


Try this:

Choose About from Workbench menu. The about window will appear in ReqAttack style. What happens when you right click that about window using usb mouse connected to RR USB?

Here a menu pops up but gets stuck and the only way to close that menu is either using the real Amiga mouse or pressing escape from keyboard.
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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2014, 03:19:12 AM »
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I'm running the other two you mentioned but not ReqAttack. I vaguely recall the name, think I ran it back in the '90s, is that the one that adds animations to requesters? It's probably a nasty hack and the source of your problems.

When I open the right-click menu and do Workbench -> About, I get the standard 3.9 ROM menu and an OK box. No issues.

At a guess I'd say your problem is software, not hardware related. Try disabling some of your hacks and patches and see if problem continues.

ReqAttack is not really a nasty hack. It makes requester really nice (it also comes woth Amikit). Animations inside requesters is an option.

 The problem is with ReqAttack. That's why I wanted someone who uses reqattack to check if it also happens with their system. After opening the about window, reqattck allows you to right click inside the window. That's when the popupmenu gets stuck. This only happens with the usb mouse and not original Amiga mouse. I guess it's related with the input.device installed by Poseidon.

The same problem also happens with MUI 3.9 setting.  Try right clicking on "Builtin". A popupmenu appears that allows you to choose between Presets XEN, Stunzi, kmel_a2024 and dirkf. Here using usb mouse, you can not choose any of those. The menu gets stuck and pressing lmb has no effect. But unlike the problem with ReqAttack, you can close the menu using rmb.
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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2020, 09:48:17 PM »
My Logitech G700 Mouse is using half of the 66Mhz 060 while being moved. Is there a way to lower this?
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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #5 on: July 29, 2020, 09:43:50 AM »
Use a native Amiga mouse or one of those USB-Amiga adapters.

I already have and use them.
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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #6 on: July 29, 2020, 10:05:10 AM »
Then your question does not make sense as you would not need the RapidRoads USB? :o

You need rapidroad usb for many things including the ability use a usb mouse. Actuall your reply does not make sense assuming that I do not have an amiga mouse or assuming that I do not want to use a usb mouse with rapidroad or I do not use rapidroad for other usb devices. If you know about a setting that reduces cpu usage, tell me. If you don't, just pass on.  ???
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Re: RapidRoad USB Review
« Reply #7 on: July 29, 2020, 10:23:37 AM »
My Logitech G700 Mouse is using half of the 66Mhz 060 while being moved. Is there a way to lower this?

Yeah - do more, other stuff, because if all you do is moving around your mouse cursor, then that’s what the CPU will spend time on :)

Btw - how do you know your CPU is using 50% on “mouse activities”, have you installed Executive by any chance? If so, then even more so - use your computer more if you want to see lower percentage used for “mouse activities”.

I have executive installed since it was released. I used idle check cpu usage.

On cybergraphx screens, if screen refresh rate is not 50hz or 60hz (which are not easy on the eye) depending on whether your Amiga is running in pal or NTSC mode, using real Amiga mice, mouse pointer does not move smoothly. The only way to have smoothish mouse movement is to have a 100hz screenmode with pal or 120hz with NTSC timings and then you have sort of flickery double mouse that at least moves smoothly. To my surprise, usb mouse makes the pointer move smooth regardless of refresh rate.  But I found that moving windows with mcps smooth moving windows option struggles when using a USB mouse with RapidRoad so I decided to check cpu usage and found this. Real Amiga mice use only 1 percent of cpu.
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