Amiga OS 4 should be ported over to the xx86.

[neon32]

I believe the title of the thread is "Amiga OS 4 should be ported over to the x86" not "Do you care about Amiga OS4 or not?".

There's a couple of reasons off the top of my head why I don't want the Amiga to be running on x86. One is that I dont really want it to be involved in the Mhz race, where only the fastest speeds will do, which is how Mac and Windows seem to be doing things at the moment. It was the same back when the classic Amiga was around. "Your Amiga with it's 7 Mhz CPU is nothing compared to my PC running it 66Mhz!".

And another point is that you cannot simply buy a x86 CPU that can be passivly cooled - every cpu, even mobile ones run hot and i'm sick of having a computer that makes so much noise. (And yes I have "silent" fans and psu in my computer, it still makes as much noise when cpu intense tasks are running)

One final point is that I dont think it's good to have just one main type of cpu out there. I think it's good to have options, and although there isn't any manufacturer that can compete with the x86 CPU at the moment, I dont think that everybody should just ditch everything else and jump on the x86 bandwagon, just becasue it's the "fastest".

It's not the speed, it's what you do with it that counts.

[neon32]

dammy wrote:

CPU MHz race is dead.
Dammy

I agree, in the literal sense. Probably using the term "Mhz race" wasn't the best idea, but what I was trying to do was encompass the whole "race" of more power is better, as a whole. Dual core, Quad core, it's just the moden equivalent of the Mhz race.

[neon32]

So the "custom" chips in the original amiga weren't a good thing? In my oppinion custom is a good thing, as long it's not a cause for being a pain in the arse to program for. If you join the x86 side, you'll be running along-side the "big boys" Microsoft, Apple, and Linux in the eyes of the public.

At this moment in time funds are limited and large leaps in technology are not really on the horizon, so i think Amiga would fair much better creating it's own section of the market, and gain it's own fan base like that then trying to catch up with the large companies and essentially becoming a "PC" in the process.

[neon32]

Of course everyone has their own tastes and preferences. I have always liked the idea of "custom" (i.e. with a high, or total degree of compatibility, not reached only by software drivers) computers as they make me, as an owner, fell more part of a community (same hardware, easier to get advice on hardware problems), hardware banging becomes a possibility, and last but not least I become much easier attached to them.

I completely agree.

[neon32]

dammy wrote:

Amazing things happen when you keep your ego in check

That could go both ways Dammy.


It's a good thing none of the next generation consoles are using Power PC processors in their machines, or that would surely be a catastrophic business decision..

[neon32]

dammy wrote:

Logical debate over CPU archs died awhile ago when those denying reality started their PPC cult.  As a group, they can enable each other as individuals to deny reality of the situation.  Just like any other cult.  The funny thing is to pin them down on why PPC has been such a huge failure in the  desktop market.  They will claim it's a lack of advertising that killed Eyeteck but when you point to IBM's (and Apple's till recently) advertising budget and Apple still left them, they will say it was lack of knowledge of the greatness of the PPC on Jobs' part.  Kinda sad to watch this happen, like a fish in it's last dieing moments in a dried up pond, unable to escape the reality of time being up for it's survival.

Dammy

I'm all for listening to your arguments supporting your idea's against PPC's Dammy, but when you insert so much patronisation into them it kinda makes it hard for me to really support any of your oppinions.

[neon32]

humppa wrote:

The Frieden's should be happy that there are still so many people interested in OS4 after all this time of failed promises and missed deadlines. They should be happy that there are people AT ALL who are interested in OS4 on ANY sort of platform.

And YOU should be grateful thats there's actually someone out there willing to put all the effort and dedication into keeping the Amiga OS going.

[neon32]

_ThEcRoW wrote:
@stone

Power efficient?? lol  :roflmao:  :roflmao:  :roflmao:

Then why Apple ditched ppc laptops if favour of intel chips?
Yeah, they were huge calefactors.

How many x86 chips can you buy at the moment that run at 3 Watts peak output huh?