HTMLview.mcc for OS3 is hosed! Can't run AmRSS!

[Rabbi]

Did anyone even notice that the MCC_HTMLview.lha file on both SourceForge & Aminet is hosed for us OS3 users?

I get an error that the Beta version that I'm using is older than 3 months & to d/l the latest version from http:/www.diku.dk/students/duff which give me a "404 - Page not found" (in danish?) error.

When I run the latest version of AmRSS, which requires HTMLview.mcc, version 13+ it crashes.

When I did a "VERSION" command of the files HTMLview.mcc & HTMLview.mcp this is what I got:

New Shell process 10
10.Workbench:> version Ram:HTMLview.mcc full
HTMLview.mcc 12.5 (09/07/99)
(07-Sep-99)
10.Workbench:> version Ram:HTMLview.mcp full
HTMLview.mcp 13.4 [020] (12/20/07)
Copyright (C) 2005-2007 HTMLview.mcc Open Source Team
10.Workbench:>

(Now obviously when I ran AmRSS, I had these MCC & MCP in the correct directory, but for illustrations sake & brevity of doing a "VERSION" command, I copied them into RAM:)

It appears that HTMLview.mcc is hosed (no good), but HTMLview.mcp is OK.

Where can I obtain a version of HTMLview.mcc for OS3, version 13.4, so that I can run AmRSS???

Has *ANYONE* got the latest version or AmRSS, 5.57 to run in OS3??  I've got OS3.9BB2.

[Rabbi]

Nothing you mentioned will resolve it short of someone compiling it & replacing the defective .lha archive file.  Are you listening, Jens L.?

[Rabbi]

Golem!dk

The version Alfie R. did was for MOS, not OS3.x.

Golem!dk wrote:
Is that the version of HTMLview.mcc supplied in the AmRSS archive? If not, did you try that one? As I recall alfie did his own version.

[Rabbi]

AmigaMance,

Please send me v5.22 of AmRSS.  My e-mail address is listed in my account; just choose to view my account, and no, that's not my picture.  It's a picture of the late French comedian Louis Fuenes (sp?) in "The Mad Adventures of Rabbi Jacob".

AmigaMance wrote:
I wasn't aware that there's a v5.57 of AmRSS. I'm using version 5.22 and i don't have any problems from HTMLview.mcc v12.6 or codesets.library v6.7.
 Perhaps the best solution for you right now is to use this AmRSS version.

[Rabbi]

xPhilx,

Wow!  You're a better Amigan than I am!  I can't get it to run.  I tried running AmRSS v5.57 with HTMLview.mcc v12.6 & HTMLview.mcp v12.5, when I choose a feed, then press the "Update" button on top, all the article headers get d/led & it freezes up my A1200 @ that point.  Do you have the Boing Bag updates installed on your OS 3.9 or is it w/o any BB updates?

In the docs for AmRSS, it states:

Requirements

amrss needs:

·MorphOS 1.45+
·MUI 20+ (I assume he meant 2.0+)

·codesets.library 6+
·mexpat.library 5+
·Busy.mcc 17+
·HTMLview 13+
·NList.mcc 20+
·NListTree.mcc 18+
·NListView.mcc 19+
·TheBarVirt.mcc 19+
·TheButton.mcc 19+

amrss uses:

·asyncio.library 40+
·CManager.library 32+
·openurl.library 4+
·CManager.mcc 32+
·MiniMailer 17+
···············································
What I've got:
·OS 3.9 BB2
·MUI 3.8

·codesets.library      6.5   [020] (12/18/07)
·mexpat.library        5.0         (01/04/08)
·Busy.mcc             17.37        (07/23/97)
·HTMLview.mcc         12.6         (01/03/00)
·NList.mcc            20.120       (12/19/07)
·NListTree.mcc        18.17        (12/19/07)
·NListView.mcc        19.17        (12/19/07)
·TheBarVirt.mcc       26.1   [020] (03/02/08)
·TheButton.mcc        26.1   [020] (03/02/08)

amrss uses:

·asyncio.library      40.6         (06/19/01)
·CManager.library     34.2         (06/09/05)
·openurl.library       5.0         (03/20/03)
·CManager.mcc         34.2         (06/09/05)
·MiniMailer           22.0         (01/21/08)

Are the libraries & mcc files that I've got the latest (other than the problematic HTMLview.mcc that I'm complaining about in this thread)?  If not, which ones need updating & where do I get it/them?

xPhilx wrote:
@Rabbi
I have HTMLview.mcc 12.6 and HTMLview.mcp 12.5 working fine with AmRSS 5.57.  I'm using OS3.9.  Hope that helps.

[Rabbi]

Golem!dk,

Yes, I deleted prior versions & put the HTMLview.mcc v12.6 & HTMLview.mcp v12.5 in my MUI Custom Class library directory, but if you read the doumentation that is in his AmRSS v5.57 .LHA file, you'll see that it says that it needs v13+!  Go figure!  Now why would Alfie put in HTMLview.mcc v12.6 & HTMLview.mcp when his own documentation says it needs v13+??  Slopiness? I dunno?! :-?  I tried it with the included HTMLview files & when I choose my feed, it's OK, then, when I press the "Update" button on top, all the feed headlines (subject lines?) are d/led, but then my A1200 freezes up.  No good.

Golem!dk wrote:
@Rabbi

The version available separately on his page is indeed for MorphOS, the version included (it's in the archive) with the OS3/68k version of amrss is not MorphOS native. Did you even try it as I suggested?

Try deleting any version you may have found on Aminet or on sourceforge and use the version included in the amrss archive (it's there for a reason). Please.

[Rabbi]

Golem!dk,

Yes, he did state that he made his own builds (which are the MOS versions of HTMLview), but he also states that is because he's running under MOS, not 68k, like I am.

Golem!dk wrote:
The docs mention some problems with newer htmlview releases, so he made his own build but forgot to update that part of the docs. But anyway.. seems htmlview isn't the problem, unfortunately there are enough other suspects on the list of requirements. Couldn't say which is causing the problem you're seeing.

[Rabbi]

wurzel wrote:

xPhilx wrote:
@Rabbi
I have HTMLview.mcc 12.6 and HTMLview.mcp 12.5 working fine with AmRSS 5.57.  I'm using OS3.9.  Hope that helps.

Same here, except I have BB2 as well. Everything works fine here ...

wurzel,

Ok, there's hope, I guess.  Could you list me your library & MCC versions, as I have, above?  I'm really curious to see what versions you've got.

[Rabbi]

Matt_H wrote:
@ Rabbi

At first glance, I see that your version of OpenURL is very old - the current one is 7.0 for 68K. When you install it, rename the OpenURL program in SYS:Prefs to something like OpenURLPrefs. Otherwise, you'll experience a problem with path priorities in which something trying to call 'openurl' will get the one in Prefs/ rather than the one in C:.

BUT

Before you try that, try SnoopDOS. See what sort of activity is going on behind the scenes in the moments leading up to the freeze.

Matt H,

Thanks for the heads-up on OpenURL.  I d/led & installed it.

I've never used SnoopDOS before, but I'll try it later today & see what I get.

[Rabbi]

Framiga wrote:
@Rabbi

have you used the amrss Install script?

For AOS4 users, if you decide to install it manually, delete the amirss/Libs/ and amirss/MUI otherwise you will get double/different classes installed

Anyway this latest version throws DSI now and then (no freezes here under AOS4.0 classic)

Yes, I used the install script when I updated my version of AmRSS.

I'm assuming that your version of HTMLview.mcc is not the OS3.x version, since you state that you're running AOS4.0 classic?  The problem is with this MUI custom class for OS3.x users.

What's a DSI?  (Deep Six Indicator?)

[Rabbi]

Framiga wrote:
i'm using HTMLview 12.6 on AmigaOS3.9 BB2.

On the other 2 system (AOS4 and MOS) the native one. (is a triple boot classic system here)




 

Framiga, if you're able to run AmRSS v5.57, I'd be very interested to see you list the particular versions of all your .library & .mcc files as I have, above.  In fact, you can cut & paste the requirements from that posting & fill in your versions of the .library & .mcc files.

I'd also be interested if wurzel would do the same, since he's claiming that he's running AmRSS v5.57 under OS3.x.

BTW, I've d/led & installed newer versions of OpenURL, now @ version 7.0  (07/29/05) & codesets.library v6.8 (01/04/09).

It appears that codesets.library was just updated today.  I d/led from SourceForge.  It appears that some fixes to it was made, especially for MOS users.

I'm interested in those OS3.x users able to run AmRSS v5.57 to see what versions of the .library & .mcc files they've got.  I'm thinking maybe an older version of one of these is needed instead of a newer version.

I've also got a SnoopDOS.log file that I'd like some help with, since I never ran SnoopDOS before, as Matt_H suggested I do.  I wrote Matt_H a private message about this, so Matt_H, check your account.

[Rabbi]

Framiga wrote:

Can you post here the SnoopDos log? (only the amrss part)

Um, I turned on all the options.  This was my first time using it.  Is there some site I can post my SnoopDOS.log file to?  It's a bit too much to post it here.

I want to thank the Amiga community for helping me get this far.  I have a very busy week, unfortunately, & won't really be able to get back to it until at least this Saturday night.  I'll be checking here, though, for responses for a site to post my SnoopDOS.log file to.  I'd appreciate some help it understanding it.  It's more a problem of having the time to go through it personally, but if anyone can mentor me with understanding what to look for, I'd graciously appreciate that.  This way, in the future, I can read it on my own.

[Rabbi]

I've got the SnoopDOS.log file, but it's too big.  I've got all the possible switches turned on, too.  If you write me a private message with your e-mail address, I'll send it to you.  Thanks in advance to all who've helped me so far.  Let's see if I can finally resolve it with the community's assistance.